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#21 halleb

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 11:41 PM

jc53 made a good point that I neglected to mention - the backswing.

The cast with a baitcaster is a whole different thing than on a spinning reel.

The trick I found to casting relatively consistently is to let around 6" of line plus the lure dangle from the tip of the rod. If you point the tip of the rod directly away from you, you should be holding the rod and reel so that the open face of the reel (spool side) is sideways, your hand should be palm down with your thumb directly out to the side. More than anything, this allows your wrist a greater range of motion as you bring the rod back and then follow through.

There is not as much of a snap in the wrist as much as a smooth follow through as you bring the casting hand back, bend the wrist (like a free throw in basketball), then initiate the cast by rotating your forearm forward at the elbow, then following through forward with your wrist (again, just as you would a free throw in basketball). What this motion does is make sure that the lure travels like a pendulum, using centrifugal motion to keep the lure pulling consistently on the line, and the line taut. You then release your thumb (you should have pressed the butten and been thumbing the spool during all of this) just before the end of your casting motion. This initiates the rotation of the spool to accelerate in sync with the acceleration of the lure, and avoids the loss of energy caused by the slack line using the slingshot effect.

The trick to remember is to try and keep the line taut at all times during the cast. At least that is what has worked for me. I hope that helped, although it may have just confused. Please let me know and I can try to explain it more clearly.


All right, so let me tell you how it went. Today was my first day going out fishing , well, I would not actually call it going fishing, rather going to practice (bait) casting. Accent was on practicing and getting out and catching something was secondary goal.Went to Asbridges Bay. All in all I am not discouraged and not disapointed. All this inputs from you (and others helped), but I was also lucky in a way that there was an older fisherman out there who showed me firsts hand what to do too.

First 10-20 casts I did surprisingly well, no backlash and decent distance so it was surprise to me too. But then, I guess I started getting ahead of myself, I started thinking - no problem "I got this thing down" - well no so fast.
As soon as I "lowered my guard down", if I did not pay enough attention or not concentrating enough - I would make mistake and cause backlash, mostly easily manageable ones but few bad ones too. So if I adjust reel properly and apply some magnetic brakes - I usually do not have much problems with it, the only thing is - whenever I tried to cast with reel in position "free spool" - it never worked for me and I would get backlash every time

All in all, I am satisfied and decided that I am going to keep my new baitcasting reel and rod, will keep practicing to be better at it. Using baitcasting reel is kind of fun too.
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#22 PainInTheBass

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 08:28 AM

That is awesome Halleb!

I am glad that at least some of the suggestions given were helpful in some way. With respect to turning off all of the brakes, If I do that, I get a birdsnest - my thumb is not educated enough to cast without them. The only technique that I do with out brakes is flipping and pitching. For my reels, I find that 2-3 centrifugal brakes and magnetics set to 6-7 work great for the distance and weight I was practicing with.

When you go to "give er" a little more juice, try to keep the form of the cast in mind and not lose it in favour of trying to get more power in there. I am sure you know what happens lol.
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#23 jc53

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 03:35 PM

Yes, great start.
Practice, pratice and more practice. Evey now and I still get overuns too.
You will get in down pat, keep throiwng the heavier lures and gradually work your self down to lighter lures.
I can toss a 5" yum dinger with my casting gear just as far as my sons spinning gear. If not farther, I do not use the spinning gear any longer.

I have never used no brakes, way too many backlashes. It has always been 2-3 on (Shimano) on the Daiwa 5-6 on the dial.

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#24 halleb

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 11:05 PM

Yeah like I thought I got waaaay ahead of myself trying without brakes. I was practicing a bit today too. I think it went slightly better then yesterday. What I am also finding out is, even the slightest move on tension knob can effect the lengths of the cast, sometimes a great deal.

Let me ask you this, are you supposed to cast further with broadcasting reel or with sniping real {for sake of comparison, lets assume that all other elements are the same (i.e. the same line, rod and lure)}.

Also, what about braid against mono, are you supposed to cast further with braid or with mono.

My experience so far (with spinning reels) was that I can always cast further with mono then with braided line.
I did similar "experiment" today. On my baitasting reel I put 0.22 mm Spiderline Fusion braided line and on spinnig rod and reel I put Robinson 0.261 mm mono , but used the same lure when testing the length of the cast.
The result - no comparison - I could cast noticeably further with spinning rod ? If this is not supposed to happen, then I guess I have much to improve with bait caster? Or perhaps, when braided line absorbs some water it can not go as far?

Your thoughts / comments would be much appreciated - as always !
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#25 frozenfire

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 07:33 PM

halleb, welcome back!

yes, you need to practice practice practice...
i find learning to use a baitcaster is similar to driving stick shift...just gotta practice and keep doing it until you get it.
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