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Oshawa Creek and Bomanville Creek Trout
#1
Posted 30 March 2011 - 10:25 PM
I know you can only fish south of the CN tracks, but I was wondering if anyone knows what the creek status is like, or if anyone has been down there recently and seen what the creeks are like.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Other than that, i'll probably go down there myself either tomorrow, or Friday or Saturday early morning, and i'll have some updates for anglers that are interested.
For those that have never fished Bomanville or Oshawa creek, you're missing out. Big Time.
see ya
Andy
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#2
Posted 31 March 2011 - 03:16 PM
I would like to get more into targeting trout.
Other than a worm or roe, I was wondering if anyone use lures like the smaller mepps or panthers? I find they work really well with bass but not sure if the trout would take those.
Also, how do people usually time the runs? Is it after rain fall? sunny warm days?
Any tips would be appreciated.
I'm also looking to fish a lot more when april and may arrives.
tony
#3
Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:18 PM
#4
Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:45 PM
I ended up leaving kinda peeved off, but also kinda happy because i had found a perfect weekday hole with about 2 dozen rainbows hanging around in it. Being the fishing degenerate that I am, I came home and tied some brown trout roe, and went back out for the evening bite. A cpl other fisherman were in the same spot and I only saw a cpl fish that were hooked but got away. I also saw a younger guy land a nice 6 lber a bit down stream from us (jealous considering I had spent 6 hours there total and got skunked so far, and he only fished his spot for 5 mins and hooked into a beauty). Everyone started to leave, and I had a feeling the bite was going to happen just as every left. I was right, no more than 2 or 3 mins after someone left (getting dark, about 7:30pm) I had a bow smack my lure as I was retrieving it, but I couldnt get a hook set, so I tossed the float into the same spot and bang, a beautiful 3 lb rainbow smacked my green roe. No more than 2 mins after I land my fish, an older gentleman landed a nice 3lber right beside me. It was pitch dark and a cpl of us were still fishing the hole, waiting to fill our limits, but to no avail. I had to pack it up and drive home 10 mins to get back to my house.
Right now i'm enjoying honey garlic wings and pasta, and after i'm done, i'm going to get my setup ready again and headout for 5:30 am in the morning, I want to be the guy that hooks into 9 fish in a cpl hrs!
thanks for reading!
Andy.
ps....the morning can't come soon enough!!!
#5
Posted 31 March 2011 - 11:14 PM
Hi i'm sort of new to this forum and trout fishing as well. I did catch a trout at this river last year but mostly just by luck. I mostly like to go for bass in the summer.
I would like to get more into targeting trout.
Other than a worm or roe, I was wondering if anyone use lures like the smaller mepps or panthers? I find they work really well with bass but not sure if the trout would take those.
Also, how do people usually time the runs? Is it after rain fall? sunny warm days?
Any tips would be appreciated.
I'm also looking to fish a lot more when april and may arrives.
tony
Hey Tony, how's it going buddy
Andy, nice to meet you
I'm new to this forum as well, but definitely not new to fishing, especially trout fishing. I generally find that trout are tough to catch unless you know what you're doing and/or conditions and timing is right. I find trout to be extremely picky as to when they'll bite, but not necesarilly what they'll bite. Timing timing timing, can't stress that enough. I'll touch more on timing later on in this post.
As for bait, fresh roe works best ( brown trout and rainbow trout roe is best, but salmon roe is fine), I don't personally use worms that often for trout because most baits will work just as good, if not better, and you don't need to touch those gross little buggers, all squirmy and shizz lol. As for mepps and panthers, and other small spinners and spoons, the smallest ones work best I find, but only in certain types of water or areas of a creek. The spinners will work great in ponds and deeper water, in a slow retreive style. As for using them in the creek, its best to use a smaller rod, (walleye or bass type spinning rod is fine) and try to use the spinners in deeper pools with very few ppl floating roe down stream (casting and retrieving tends to annoy noodle rodders for obvious reasons). Just slowly real the spinner in and try not to catch the bottom, you'll be able to feel the bites very easily with this combo. I don't use the spinners as often, because I enjoy using my noodle rod combo instead. For the record, trout LOVE spinners, absolutely love, Jessica Alba type love.
As for general bait, the the good stuff include roe (bright colours), spinners, single eggs, small plastic Berkley pink worms, maggots (fake or real), worms, sponge (literal sponge), flies, small crankbaits, etc, to be honest, trout will hit anything as long as they are active and hungry. I personally prefer to use roe, with a small (not too small) mustad hook, with 3 small splitshot about 8 inches apart, and a bright green or red/orange float about 2 feet from the hook. I use 6lb test or 8lb test line (nothing higher). And of course an 11' noodle rod (you can find decent brands for under 100$ when on sale, such as Shimano etc) (great for beginners). The best presentation is to drift in 3-4 foot pools and make sure to remain patient, cause sometimes these buggers won't bite for the love of god (even if you can see 30 rainbows in a pool).
As for timing, fall time and spring time are the optimal times. In the falls the trout come up the creeks and streams to eat the salmon eggs and in the spring they come up the same creeks to spawn. Both times of the year are equally as good, aslong as you know what you're doing and know where to find them. Generally, opening day around southern Ontario is 3rd saturday of April (I believe) but you'll basically be shoulder to shoulder with fisherman just like yourself in search of the beautys. You'll have to figure your way around that, generally I like to wait for a few days after opening day so there's less ppl. In some areas you cant fish for trout way before April, once the ice melts pretty much (south of CN tracks in Oshawa and Bowmanville creek, my home creeks). The best time to chase the bows is right after a big rain, except you should wait a day or 2 for the water to go down and for better colour (greenish water is amazing I find). Cold mornings are best, and cold evenings are good as well. And here is the most important thing you need to take note of, I find that the trout ONLY bite like crazy for about 30mins-1hr EARLY morning (just as the sun rises) and about 30mins-1hr JUST before it gets dark. Its really odd, but those are the best chances at hooking into them. Later in the day and later in the morning are OK as well, but like I said, not nearly as good as dusk and dawn.
My only other tip is to have fun, a lot of the times you'll get skunked fishing for rainbows and browns, but I always say, its better to get skunked fishing than it is to be working.
Hope I provided some info for your future trout missions, good luck!
Andy
#6
Posted 01 April 2011 - 03:58 PM
Hi i'm sort of new to this forum and trout fishing as well. I did catch a trout at this river last year but mostly just by luck. I mostly like to go for bass in the summer.
I would like to get more into targeting trout.
Other than a worm or roe, I was wondering if anyone use lures like the smaller mepps or panthers? I find they work really well with bass but not sure if the trout would take those.
Also, how do people usually time the runs? Is it after rain fall? sunny warm days?
Any tips would be appreciated.
I'm also looking to fish a lot more when april and may arrives.
tony
Hey tony
I just recently started fishing trout as well but I know that mepps and panthers will work. Typically people tend to use size 2 or 3 for trout. It just depends where you are fishing.
Hope this helps
#7
Posted 01 April 2011 - 11:29 PM
Im from Thunder Bay and usually fish untouched streams and don't have to worry about bumpin shoulders with anyone else while out there but I have fishing the Maitland River quite a bit in my day, and have spend some time on Bowmanville Creek, both of which have great runs. Just to add to the comment about alternative baits to spawn bags, I have had good luck with Flat Fish. Spinners and spoons, however, are great when fishing deeper pools. Rainbows will hit just about anything if its dangled in front of their face, but as was said earlier, its all about timing. Thanks guys for reading, I will be in Southern Ontario for a few weeks around the opener, as we are having a late spring here in Thunder Bay, so hoping to get out to a few different spots in the area and having some good luck.
Andy
#8
Posted 01 April 2011 - 11:30 PM
#9
Posted 02 April 2011 - 10:45 AM
to andy, where do you normally fish when you come to southern Ontario?
There's plenty of really nice creeks and rivers around here, my personal favs or Bowmanville, Oshawa and Ganaraska. I've always wanted to fish wilmot, the credit river, and especially the Niagara river....the views out in that area are amazing, and I hear the brown trout are very plentiful.
As well to Andy, what type of baits do you use up north? and what are the size of fish like?
#10
Posted 02 April 2011 - 11:13 AM
i noticed use long noodle is good way to use a small dia leader. and i am using wildriver brand $100 entry.
can you recommend some high end noodle?
thanks
#11
Posted 02 April 2011 - 12:12 PM
- G Loomis(pretty expensive, from a few hundred$ and up)
- Shimano is a good 'go to brand' (i've found sales with Shimano noodle rods for $50) (prices range from a hundred to a few hundred and up)
- Diawa noodle rods have been good to me as well
If you go to the bigbox shops, you'll find a nice variety of noodle rods, ask someone who works there and they should be able to help you out quite a bit.
#12
Posted 02 April 2011 - 02:36 PM
#13
Posted 02 April 2011 - 05:07 PM
some high end noodle rods i would recommend are;
- G Loomis(pretty expensive, from a few hundred$ and up)
- Shimano is a good 'go to brand' (i've found sales with Shimano noodle rods for $50) (prices range from a hundred to a few hundred and up)
- Diawa noodle rods have been good to me as well
If you go to the bigbox shops, you'll find a nice variety of noodle rods, ask someone who works there and they should be able to help you out quite a bit.
always wondering same questions
ultralight and slow . same noodle rod.
does g-loomis feel really different? andy?
thank you
#14
Posted 02 April 2011 - 10:05 PM
one time in may. i saw a huge group of big trout about 30 or so in a pool, but they just wouldn't take worms and i had no equipment to target them either, so i sure know they are hard to catch. now i just need to time it right like you said. Thanks everyone.
I might try geting a noodle rod to see what advantages there are.
are there any noodle rods that can pack down to really small, because i like using travel rods and keeping my gear and weight as small as possible.
#15
Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:42 AM
hi andys..
i noticed use long noodle is good way to use a small dia leader. and i am using wildriver brand $100 entry.
can you recommend some high end noodle?
thanks
a very long stick and some thread will catch trout.
its not the equipment that makes you catch fish its the technique/bait and time of day that will make the difference.
#16
Posted 03 April 2011 - 04:27 PM
LOL, that's funny, I never met another Andy Lee before, so nice to meet you.
to andy, where do you normally fish when you come to southern Ontario?
There's plenty of really nice creeks and rivers around here, my personal favs or Bowmanville, Oshawa and Ganaraska. I've always wanted to fish wilmot, the credit river, and especially the Niagara river....the views out in that area are amazing, and I hear the brown trout are very plentiful.
As well to Andy, what type of baits do you use up north? and what are the size of fish like?
Ill likely be spending some time on the Maitland and Bayfield area rivers. Grew up within an hour of that general area.
We use basically the same baits on Superior tribs that would be used in sounthern ontario tribs, lots of yarn flies and spaw bags early run and usually move toward nymphs later on. Another thing to consider trying after a good rain is pink trout worms on a #8 red octopus hook, for some reason its unstopable up here after a solid rain when the water is a little dirtier. The interesting thing about Superior Steelhead is that they are a self sustaining wild population. We don't get the numbers that you would in southern ontario but these fish aren't stocked and have the attitude to prove it. An avg. fish up here is 3-6lbs, with a big fish being in the 8-10lb class...We still have a while yet till we are Steelheadin, I just got back from ice fishing over the weekend and there was still 3ft of ice on this in land lake haha. Welcome to the north.
Andy
#17
Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:58 AM
#18
Posted 04 April 2011 - 10:31 AM
always wondering same questions
ultralight and slow . same noodle rod.
does g-loomis feel really different? andy?
thank you
Hey Roska, when it comes to noodle rods, the differences for beginners isn't much. The slight differences are usually meant for the hardcore steelheaders, and enthusiasts. A lot of it depends on what type of water you are fishing as well, bigger creeks and rivers would require longer and slightly heavier action noodle rods and the ultra light combos would be used for smaller creeks etc.
As for G Loomis, they are fairly expensive, and mainly for the hardcore enthusiast, They have great rods, but also great marketing, which is why they are so popular. For someone that is starting out or only going ouit once in a while, the middle brands will do just fine. I personally use Shimano and Diawa, they are great rods for a decent price as well. A few years ago Gagnon Sports had a sale and the Shimano noodle rods were $49.99 (on sale from $100), and my dad bought about 10 rods. So the past few years i've been using up the stockpile and they do the job just fine. I'm personally waiting for a sale on some G Loomis rods, and i'm thinking about picking up a centre pin reel combo. This past week I saw about 30 fisherman at my home creek, and honestly, about 25 of them had the centre pin combo, I was blown away. I hear everybody say "once you go to centre pin, you never go back".
Great tips put up. Just a slight correction on opener. It's the 4th Saturday of April (the 23rd). Be safe out there...some of the runs get quite flooded with fast moving waters. If you wade, definitely be on the safer side of things.
Yes, Frank you are correct. I was confused by the weird month of April because there are 5 Saturdays in this month. April 23 is opener. Thanks for the edit
#19
Posted 04 April 2011 - 11:05 AM
Thanks to you I was down in Oshawa on Sunday to fish with my two sons who are 7 & 8. I was fishing off one of the long piers with the light on it, an my first time there. Anyways, we were the first ones to arrive, at 7:30am. We were there for an hour when my youngest caught his first trout. It's was a two pounder, lost another a bit later. Just thought I would try that area since I live twenty mins from there. Thx again.
Oh....... Little Cleo was the bait
#20
Posted 04 April 2011 - 10:30 PM
Andy.
Thanks to you I was down in Oshawa on Sunday to fish with my two sons who are 7 & 8. I was fishing off one of the long piers with the light on it, an my first time there. Anyways, we were the first ones to arrive, at 7:30am. We were there for an hour when my youngest caught his first trout. It's was a two pounder, lost another a bit later. Just thought I would try that area since I live twenty mins from there. Thx again.
Oh....... Little Cleo was the bait
AWSOME stuff, that's great to hear!!!, I'm slightly jealous cause i've never fished that pier, I usually do all my fishing up the creek. Because of you, I might end up on the pier tomorrow morning, I was fishing the creek this morning and the water was a little high and fairly dirty and I left after 30 mins. I'm gonna give the pier a shot tomorrow morning I thinks.
But anyways, great that your son caught his fairt trout, I feel slightly responsible! which is cool cause trout fishing is my favourite and has been my favourite since I was a kid, probably the same age as your son. I'm 25 now, so me and him got a few years til we're probably your age lol,
Good Luck!
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