Hi there just got a quick questions when the salmon start coming in river, what lures should i use, was looking at mepps and little cleos size #0,but they had different designs etc, would any #0 size mepps or little cleos work? and with spoons would it have to be the small ones, can i use any floating raps? only got those:( , and i wanna fish the rouge river scouted out some secluded spots and it has some nice small currents that empty into pools, so best bet would be try the pools or the begining of the little currents on the river? thanks any help would be greatly appreciated, 3rd year running for an attempt to catch a salmon but still no luck. thanks look forward to reading your replies.
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baits to use for river salmon?
Started by lansdowne03, Aug 25 2011 01:08 AM
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 01:38 AM
Hi there just got a quick questions when the salmon start coming in river, what lures should i use, was looking at mepps and little cleos size #0,but they had different designs etc, would any #0 size mepps or little cleos work? and with spoons would it have to be the small ones, can i use any floating raps? only got those:( , and i wanna fish the rouge river scouted out some secluded spots and it has some nice small currents that empty into pools, so best bet would be try the pools or the begining of the little currents on the river? thanks any help would be greatly appreciated, 3rd year running for an attempt to catch a salmon but still no luck. thanks look forward to reading your replies.
Ive never caught a salmon on a lure but if you want to catch em in the river try float fishing with salmon rowe or skein.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:21 PM
Heh, first post too glib? 
Best bet is to remember that almost all the salmon you see in a river you CANNOT catch. They simply will not take anything. Some bright bulbs out West did some studies and found 9/10 salmon will simply swim out of the way of everything an angler can throw at them.
And that's in a perfect scenario, this is part of the reason for the fever of Salmon Insanity, the maddeningly frustrating truth that black boots won't hit. Anything.
Toss those super spooky, lived all their lives in 300' of water and now they are in a creek they can barely swim in, not eating only decomposing fish into a Lake O trib with everybody & their dog walking by and those 10% of fish that MAY hit just got a permanent case of lockjaw. Any sort of hardware or lure isn't going to work. Period. That's the hard cold truth of angling for salmon in rivers.
Salmon will occasionally eat the eggs of other salmon, so if they're not spooked you can drift the bigger pools & runs with a chunk of skein or single eggs. But most of the fish you catch will be lined, no matter how hard to try to avoid it.
If you want to throw lures instead of dealing with roe, but don't want to deal with pier loogans, find the deep holes in estuary water. The frog water between the mouth and first set of rapids is probably some of my favourite September fishing, they'll be a few salmon cruising around waiting for night to run up the river. Smaller wobbling lures like a Rapala Taildancer, Kwikfish, Wally Diver work, but it can be slow fishing during the daytime.
This is what an actual take looks like, drifting a loonie sized ball of skein around the frog water.
Bait hooked at the back of the mouth, not the outside of the jaw.
Best bet is to remember that almost all the salmon you see in a river you CANNOT catch. They simply will not take anything. Some bright bulbs out West did some studies and found 9/10 salmon will simply swim out of the way of everything an angler can throw at them.
And that's in a perfect scenario, this is part of the reason for the fever of Salmon Insanity, the maddeningly frustrating truth that black boots won't hit. Anything.
Toss those super spooky, lived all their lives in 300' of water and now they are in a creek they can barely swim in, not eating only decomposing fish into a Lake O trib with everybody & their dog walking by and those 10% of fish that MAY hit just got a permanent case of lockjaw. Any sort of hardware or lure isn't going to work. Period. That's the hard cold truth of angling for salmon in rivers.
Salmon will occasionally eat the eggs of other salmon, so if they're not spooked you can drift the bigger pools & runs with a chunk of skein or single eggs. But most of the fish you catch will be lined, no matter how hard to try to avoid it.
If you want to throw lures instead of dealing with roe, but don't want to deal with pier loogans, find the deep holes in estuary water. The frog water between the mouth and first set of rapids is probably some of my favourite September fishing, they'll be a few salmon cruising around waiting for night to run up the river. Smaller wobbling lures like a Rapala Taildancer, Kwikfish, Wally Diver work, but it can be slow fishing during the daytime.
This is what an actual take looks like, drifting a loonie sized ball of skein around the frog water.
Bait hooked at the back of the mouth, not the outside of the jaw.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:38 PM
Great pic.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 04:29 PM
Canadian tire has a four pack of cleos for twenty bucks. Always had more luck with cleos then roe for salmon. Trout love roe more.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 05:05 PM
Nice, what size are they though? I only like the 3/4oz for pier chucking, cant get the 2/5 out far enough.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 05:22 PM
I've caught salmons in river pools.
Using body bait lures... salmons will literally chase and smash the lures. Why it is biting does not matter other than the fact that you got it to bite it.
So like some of you have said that salmon will not feed... let's not talk about lining or any other non-sense like that anymore as it's been talked about too many time.s
Using body bait lures... salmons will literally chase and smash the lures. Why it is biting does not matter other than the fact that you got it to bite it.
So like some of you have said that salmon will not feed... let's not talk about lining or any other non-sense like that anymore as it's been talked about too many time.s
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 06:19 PM
A lot of times with lures mostly,I think throwing a lure repeatedly in the same area just makes them mad as mentioned in a lot of previous discussions. Causing them to bite back.
And I don't know how many times I have seen salmon follow my lure to the shore and than turn around,just saying.
And I don't know how many times I have seen salmon follow my lure to the shore and than turn around,just saying.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 06:22 PM
They maybe biting out of aggression or territorial. I think. Lol.
Nado. I think they are 1/2 oz. I can get 30 yards to a cast
Nado. I think they are 1/2 oz. I can get 30 yards to a cast
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 06:36 PM
You fellas ever have any luck with those pink worms when float fishing for salmon?I know they work well for steelhead.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 07:28 PM
That's a good question. I will try this year for sure
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:46 AM
Any sort of hardware or lure isn't going to work. Period.
Hardware can work on even the darkest of boots. Great tips though.
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 02:13 PM
Canadian tire has a four pack of cleos for twenty bucks. Always had more luck with cleos then roe for salmon. Trout love roe more.
Lebaron has better prices, the 3/4 oz. cleo is only 3.54 plus tax and the glow-in-the-dark one is 4.09 plus tax. Source:http://www.lebaron.c...rthern_king.pdf
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 03:06 PM
debate between salmon and biting has been discussed over years. Just try and handle the fish safely as u can. If u see the fish is snagged break it OFF,if its in the mouth +bonus. Most tribs lready have nice runs of salmon so enjoy it while it last.
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