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[point defiance]

Hey folks, please dont kick your fish back into the river. I dont understand after all your hard work n patience to catch a beautiful fish and treating it like garbage. Please give it the respect it deserves and release it properly.

Seen it happen twice now n by folks who look like they know what there doing. Not dressed in canadian tire gear if you know what I mean.

[Knuguy]

Hey folks, please dont kick your fish back into the river. I dont understand after all your hard work n patience to catch a beautiful fish and treating it like garbage. Please give it the respect it deserves and release it properly.

Seen it happen twice now n by folks who look like they know what there doing. Not dressed in canadian gear if you know what I mean.

Thx for posting that.

I saw a guy do that to fish not long ago, and he kept fishing and caught some more. Defeats the purpose of of C & R, IMO. It would have been better if he had kept his first 2 and gone home.

[Alfiegee]

Hey folks, please dont kick your fish back into the river. I dont understand after all your hard work n patience to catch a beautiful fish and treating it like garbage. Please give it the respect it deserves and release it properly.

Seen it happen twice now n by folks who look like they know what there doing. Not dressed in canadian gear if you know what I mean.

You make a very good point. I'm not going to get into what gear people are wearing because I had to give my own father a lecture on this same thing this past spring. My father is nearing his 80's and is not as mobile as he used to be when he waded rivers for Specks and Rainbows. I invited him down to Hamilton Harbor to fish Channel Cats with me for a day. He hooked and landed a nice 6 lb Bowfin and said what the hell is that and kicked it back.. I gave him royal shitte and then showed him my collection of Bowfin photos I had taken in the same area. He brought me up to respect Trout and Bass and Pike and Walleye. Now because of me he respects Bowfin and Channel Cats and other " non game fish. "

Alfie.

[anoobiss]

Hey folks, please dont kick your fish back into the river. I dont understand after all your hard work n patience to catch a beautiful fish and treating it like garbage. Please give it the respect it deserves and release it properly.

Seen it happen twice now n by folks who look like they know what there doing. Not dressed in canadian gear if you know what I mean.

Oh man, I was down at petro last week caught a nice sized chinny hen, wanted to let her go and do her thing (have enough roe for this season and next!). Any how my back had been bugging me for a few days and mid fight with this beast (24+lbs), don't you know it, I feel a pop in my lower back.. So I ended up bringing her in stuck hunched on one side, beached her and then the problems began, I was so locked up I couldn't even bend down to take the hook out, so I had to cut my line, leave the hook in the poor thing and well.. kick her back into the water.. The whole time there is a guy not even 15ft away sees all this go down and believe me my groans were audible from the sheer pain, but chooses to stand there like a loveing nob and give me dirty looks when I am trying to get this fish back in the water. I mean really? I am in incredible amounts of pain trying to prop this fish between my feet to face it upstream so it can live, but buddy next to me sees some guy kicking a game fish along.. End of the day, I am not a Canadian, I do not dress like a Canadian(unfortunately due to being Australian my wardrobe consists of shorts singlets and flip flops and haven't prepared for the winter yet) So if you see a guy "not from here" kicking a fish, maybe assess the situation before you decide how to approach it..

Side note: I have seen plenty of "Canadians" do loveing unsightly things to fish in bronte creek and the credit, same amount that do the same thing back in Australia. So why don't you think a little harder about what you say before you say it, it is totally regardless where the person is from every country has douche bags, don't become a statistic..

[point defiance]

Actually I meant Canadian Tire gear. Wasnt refering to where you are from. But if I struck a cord so quickly where you have to swear then maybe Im not so far from the truth.

[piju]

[grubman]

I never looked at their (canadian tire) waders or other hardware. Does Mastercraft or worse Jobmate make waders and vests now?.........lol. What gave it away that it's from crappy tire? The big red inverted triangle on the waders?..........lol

I learned the hard way with their hip waders, don't remember what make, it cracked after 5 years of use, $10/year not bad not great either.

[TRINIBOY]

Hey piju,

Don't knock Canadian Tire gear... some people are not fortunate enough to afford the good stuff but still like fishing.
It's a good store to utilize as a starting point for anyone who wants to test if fishing is something they enjoy before investing more money into the sport.
I know I started off with buying rods reels at first from Canadian Tire to start off, before investing in on higher quality gear later on.
Anyways not to stray too far off the topic, people really should cherish the fact that Ontario is blessed with such a variety of different fish species.

As such each species deserves the respect of being handled with some care for future generations to be able to enjoy this great sport of ours...

Just saying….

[TincaTinca]

Hey piju,

Don't knock Canadian Tire gear... some people are not fortunate enough to afford the good stuff but still like fishing.
It's a good store to utilize as a starting point for anyone who wants to test if fishing is something they enjoy before investing more money into the sport.
I know I started off with buying rods reels at first from Canadian Tire to start off, before investing in on higher quality gear later on.
Anyways not to stray too far off the topic, people really should cherish the fact that Ontario is blessed with such a variety of different fish species.

As such each species deserves the respect of being handled with some care for future generations to be able to enjoy this great sport of ours...

Just saying….

I agree with Triniboy completely. I'm new to the forum but I've been "lurking" around long enough to see a lot of fishing snobbery being displayed. Linking people who disrespect the sport of fishing and the type/cost of equipment they are wearing or using is totally uncalled for. There are plenty of law-abiding and experienced fishermen that use the so-called "crappy" equipment and extract the same amount of enjoyment from our sport that the ones with the higher end stuff do. I've seen idiot's dressed up in top-notch waders and carrying Islander reels throw their Timmies or McCafe cups into the water, not to mention knock a couple of trout around with their Simms wading shoes... Bottom line is, if we see any of this type of behaviour we should just politely remind people not to do it, help educate them, and enjoy our day out on the water.

[piju]

[getin]

Since when “Canadian Tire” geared anglers are the problem people? I know what you mean and I have seen my share of ugly things by pretty much everyone, in all colors and suits! Can give you a ton of examples as how the pro–looking guys dropped fish out of a 5 meter pier, letting the fish surface and die while they were thinking it was “released”, and many other scenarios. The fact is you may use cheap gear because you are a beginner and do not know what gear suits your fishing style (until you learn and upgrade) OR just because you cannot simply afford it! Leave the prejudice out of this equation!

[Fishheads]

When I started fishing over 24 years ago, I started with Mitchell combo from Crappy Tire and it did me well until I could afford higher end equipment...
-In the PD's defence, I understand what he "meant" to say and I am sure that no mailce was intended to those who currently use or own gear from CT.

Back on Topic.
-I don't think it matters what you are dressed in.. If you did not learn or were not taught the "do's & don't s" of fishing by those who were knowledgeable, than all the best gear in the world won't change that fact.
It comes down to education and respect... Perhaps more seasoned fishermen should offer "tips and/or advice" (Not in an arrogant way, but in a respectful manner.. no individual wants to be spoken down too, or disrespected) to those who are not as familiar with the "best-practices" of proper handling and C&R.

*food for thought*

Very true, It's all about education and respect. Some people just don't know the damage it can cause. Others just don't care!!!!
My first set up was a spinning reel from Canadian tire and I mounted it on a 7wt. fly rod that I had. At the time it was all i could afford. I also didn't have anyone to teach me the proper techniques, but I still hit fish on that set up. I remember talking to a guy on the side of the river, he was going on about this newbie he saw on the river fishing with a fly rod spinner combo (ME) lol. he said he couldn't believe that this guy was hitting fish. lol At that point I held up me fly rod set up and said " like this one" Man was he embarrassed.
Dave and I are good friends now and fish often together. I still like riding him about that story.

Point being: "It's not the gear, It's the guy under the gear"

[Alfiegee]

Not really understanding all this talk about Canadian Tire gear. Are Mepps, Rapala and Williams no longer good lures? Does Mitchell no longer make good reels? I've been using Mitchell reels for almost 40 years and have never had one fail. I still have my original 301 and it works fine, it just doesn't get used often now because of smaller lighter reels (also Mitchell.) Shimano and again Mitchell, are they not good rods anymore? Nobody told me.
Over the years I have accumulated a lot of more expensive gear that is not sold at Canadian Tire and am very happy with it, but when I want to restock my supply of Mepps or Gulp, why would I go to an outdoors specialty store and pay more than CTC charges me. I can go to CTC and buy $200 worth of lures. The exact same thing would cost me $240 at Bass Pro Shop. The only thing about CTC that pissed me off was when I found a nice fly reel a few years ago and could not find any line. I asked the girl that worked there if they had any line. She went on her computer and told me that CTC had discontinued selling fly line. Scratching my head on that 1 still.

Getting back on topic, if you catch any fish you are not keeping for the table it should be released with total respect and care, not only for future generations, but because it is a living creature. I agree that education of the few ( I hope) is important and a friendly reminder may help in some cases of people abusing fish, but I think that most folks that do this sort of thing just lack respect and suffer very low morals. A friendly reminder may just result in some verbal abuse, but it is worth a try.
Anoobiss, I feel for you buddy. I to throw my lower back from time to time, as a matter of fact I did it 3 weeks ago and am just now able to get out of bed without extreme pain. Just wondering why you didn't ask the guy who was fishing 15 ft from you to come over and give you a hand releasing your Salmon.

Alfie.

[NADO]

I too bought my first combo from CT. a $20 piece of crap that broke within the first 30 days of me having it, got it replaced under warranty and then it broke again in a few weeks. Sounds like a waste of money but I almost got 2 months of fishing in for 20 bucks…not bad for a trial run with a new sport. Now I wouldn’t be caught dead buying a rod or reel from CT, yes they carry good names like Shimano and Mitchell. But they only carry the low end Shimano and Mitchell products that you wont find in real fishing stores. I actually recommend Canadian Tire to people getting into fishing for the first time.

Alfie bass pro actually has some really good prices on certain things. Mepps aglia #3 is 4.49 at CT and 3.49 at bass pro.

[jpct]

I love seeing guys on the river with the plastic still on their CT Specials..

Makes me howl everytime.

[Knuguy]

Well, Can Tire gear or not, I still don't think it's a good idea to kick fish!

[salmotrutta]

Respect other anglers, cyclists, hikers, the flora and fauna and the fish, and have fun.

I see kids (and adults) with cheap gear all of the time - looks like they're having fun to me. If they asked me for help, of course I would share what I know, but it's not so much how many fish they are catching or where they bought their gear that matters, it's being out there in nature and enjoying yourself. Learning is as much or more fun than any other time. Why do you think guys keep fishing? Because you're constantly learning new things. Part of learning is figuring out what gear works best. Where you bought your gear means shitall.

This guy's gear is free, and he's a loveing champ in my books:

[point defiance]

Okay guys, let me try explaing again. Sometimes reading black n white text is hard to understand. In this age of text messaging, miscommunication happens to often.

By no means was I putting down Canadian tire gear. Some folks understood me. I meant that even with expensive gear on doesnt mean you know what your doin.

I refer to cheaper gear as to experience of an angler. As most people here have noted that is how they started fishing. Anyone who is new to the sport is still learning to fish properly and thats no problem.

We all have to start somewhere. Hope this clears things up a bit.

Back to topic. Please respect your fish : )