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#1 salmotrutta

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:30 AM

Ivory Salmon

Read about this a few weeks ago. Funny that white fleshed salmon fetches a higher price than coloured. Makes me wonder if Great Lakes salmon aren't being supplied to some of these restaurants, knowing that the industry is ripe with such deceptive practices.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:37 AM

Ivory Salmon

Read about this a few weeks ago. Funny that white fleshed salmon fetches a higher price than coloured. Makes me wonder if Great Lakes salmon aren't being supplied to some of these restaurants, knowing that the industry is ripe with such deceptive practices.


Couple of months ago, I've caught a couple of salmon with white meat. Actually made a post in this forum about it and ask people. I've never heard of ivory salmon till I actually caught one and ask people about it.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:49 AM

Couple of months ago, I've caught a couple of salmon with white meat. Actually made a post in this forum about it and ask people. I've never heard of ivory salmon till I actually caught one and ask people about it.


White salmon are the name of the game in the Great Lakes. In fact, I've never seen a salmon that didn't have white meat from the Great Lakes. I have, however, caught steelhead, browns and brook trout with red or orange meat.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:06 AM

White salmon are the name of the game in the Great Lakes. In fact, I've never seen a salmon that didn't have white meat from the Great Lakes.


White meat salmon are not the name of the game in the great lakes.

The meat on salmon turns white once they get close to spawning and are relying on their own flesh for energy.

I'm assuming you've never caught a silver salmon in the spring or early summer.

When the meat turns white they aren't fit for eating as far as I'm concerned...

The white salmon this article talks about and great lakes chinooks are 2 different things...
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:16 AM

I have caught silver spring salmon on Georgian Bay. We always get white fleshed salmon, wish I had a pic to show.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:09 AM

White meat salmon are not the name of the game in the great lakes.

The meat on salmon turns white once they get close to spawning and are relying on their own flesh for energy.

I'm assuming you've never caught a silver salmon in the spring or early summer.

When the meat turns white they aren't fit for eating as far as I'm concerned...

The white salmon this article talks about and great lakes chinooks are 2 different things...


Actually the colour of their has flesh has been proven to be due to genetics (not to sound like a smartass). The ones with white meat, lack the enzymes to process certain pigments from their diet and this keeps their flesh pale.

Other than genetics, you have the farm raised fish, which are fed an artificial diet that contains coloured food, which translates to coloured meat.

If where you have fished in the past, you caught coloured salmon on the Great Lakes, you are either catching salmon with a different genetic make up than the white ones which I predominantly catch and see being caught, or you're catching stocked salmon that were fed coloured food.

Like I said, I have caught coloured steelhead, but I've never caught or seen caught a coloured chinook on the Great Lakes, though I am sure coloured strains must exist in some or all of the Great Lakes.

Where are you catching coloured salmon?

One good example of the farmed/not farmed scenario I can think of is a pond north of Whitby. Every year, they stock brook trout in there for a kids fishing derby. There, you can catch brookies with either white meat or coloured meat. The white meat brookies are wild, because a creek runs through the pond and wild brook trout are in there as well as the farm raised. When you catch a brookie with orange meat there, you know it's artificially coloured from its fish farm food.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:27 PM

Ive never seen white meat salmon come from the great lakes. My dad fishes Georgian bay several times a year with friends and family. They call it a "meat run" and usually bring home 5 fish two or three times a year.

Owen sounds tournament does a fish fry. Literally hundreds of fish come in for the feast. None of them are white.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:46 PM

The Chinook hen, I caught in late August, had white flesh. She was New York released as she had a yellow marking under her pelvic fins. My friend caught another white-fleshed hen last weekend. Both hens came from Lake Ontario.
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:07 AM

silver fish/ pink to red meat dark fish/ white meat salmon, bows, lakers all seems to have the same trend to me
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 07:00 AM

Owen sounds tournament does a fish fry. Literally hundreds of fish come in for the feast. None of them are white.

I have taken part of the Owen Sound Spectacular. I always take part in the fish fry (a mix of trout and salmon).While diggin through the fish on my plate I come across very pale almost white meat. Though they mix both species together there are definatly white fleshed fish.
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 07:07 AM

The only time I 've seen white meat come off of a salmon is when they are close to spawning. I've caught/seen hundreds of salmon from georgian bay and none other than fish close to spawning had white meat. Even some of the shakers I've kept from Lake O in june/july had orange meat. Heck I still have a couple bags of salmon in the freezer, guess what color the meat is?
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 07:18 AM

:lol:
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:02 AM

I have taken part of the Owen Sound Spectacular. I always take part in the fish fry (a mix of trout and salmon).While diggin through the fish on my plate I come across very pale almost white meat. Though they mix both species together there are definatly white fleshed fish.


I'm pretty sure (not positive) that the SSA buys whitefish for the Owen Sound derby fish frys in case they don't get enough donations. Which would explain the white fish on your plate during the derby. I also take part in that derby every year and donated some of my catches this year and made the board a few times to boot...
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:51 AM

Never came across white meat in Chinnies, at least not in Lake Ontario or GB. I see a good 20-30 go through my smoker every year,so they must be pretty rare. All the ones I see look like this color.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:11 PM

Never came across white meat in Chinnies, at least not in Lake Ontario or GB. I see a good 20-30 go through my smoker every year,so they must be pretty rare. All the ones I see look like this color.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 07:50 PM

I'm pretty sure (not positive) that the SSA buys whitefish for the Owen Sound derby fish frys in case they don't get enough donations. Which would explain the white fish on your plate during the derby. I also take part in that derby every year and donated some of my catches this year and made the board a few times to boot...

That would clear that up for me, thank you. Congrats on the catches, I have unfortunatly never made the board. I go out on my uncles boat with him. His boat his rules and hes hard to convice to try new things. We dont do so well :(. Use to fish Lionshead alot with my farther growing up and did very well.
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