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#1 schnip

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:23 PM

i am a float guy--that got bit with the fly fishing bug--i want to get a setup that will be good for a few years--400 budget...suggestions?

also stiffness of rod--i can imagine i want whippy but stiff just from my simple observations but i may be way off...help....also flies---soime sink, some float, line that goes with both the same? --thank you in advance
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:42 PM

i am a float guy--that got bit with the fly fishing bug--i want to get a setup that will be good for a few years--400 budget...suggestions?

also stiffness of rod--i can imagine i want whippy but stiff just from my simple observations but i may be way off...help....also flies---soime sink, some float, line that goes with both the same? --thank you in advance


Paging Dr. Chase, Paging Dr. Chase, there is a man with fly questions. :D

I'm sure one of the other members with some fly experience will answer these questions.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:51 PM

Paging Dr. Chase, Paging Dr. Chase, there is a man with fly questions. :D

I'm sure one of the other members with some fly experience will answer these questions.


+1, CC will be able to give you great insight on flyfishing.

I'd give my 2cents but I just started not long ago so don't have much of an input. I do have one piece of advice that I can pass onto you that I got from somebody else. If you've never tried fly fishing before, you could get a starter combo kit first to learn the basics. A lot of people give up on fly fishing while learning the basics, so it would suck to purchase a 400+ first outfit just to find out you don't like it.

I started with the scientific anglers kit, I personally think it's a great kit for beginners to learn from.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:10 PM

Contact mike from Fisheads. He will set you up
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:21 PM

i would recommend a 9 foot 6 wt its pretty much a all around rod you can fish for steelhead, trout and bass and its a good rod to cast not to heavy or light as for stiffness i would go with a medium action. As for a reel a large arbor would be best just holds more backing. for flies it all depends on what you want to fish for and what time of year your fishing i have about 9 flie boxes full of flies there are so many patterns you can go with if you want i could meet up with you and you can try out some of my rods to get a feel for different wt rod and different sizes
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:13 PM

so large arbour
medium action
8-9 wt

4-5wt is for?

would work as a starting point for small to medium rivers and the odd bass outing?

what about line i know i only want to fish dry flies--that surface hit excites me

below is is info i grabbed off the net

#5 Weight Fly Rods

~ Considered medium light

~ One of the most popular sizes for general trout fishing

~ Fishes tippets down to 2 pound test

~ Works well with tippets of 3 to 10 pound test

~ Works well with bushy dries up to size #6 or tiny emergers down to size #20

~ Casts comfortably to ranges of 60 feet with a size #12 fly

~ Feels good with mountain cutthroats or Alaska rainbows

looks like what i want...i wont be salmon fishing with it---resident trout and small bass in the spring and summer

what you think? ican get a nice ross rod 5wt 9ft---
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 03:02 PM

ya Ross make nice rods i have cast there 9ft 4 wt was a nice rod loaded the line well. A 5 wt i dont use a ton but when its windy and fishing a larger river like parts of the upper grand i will use to it to get the line out alittle farther. But for the most part i use ether a 3 wt or 4 wt for resident trout and a 6,7 single hand or my 8 wt for steel head my 5 wt for smaller bass like you. but for what you want you can go wrong with a 5 wt and Ross make great products most of my reels are Ross.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:26 PM

so large arbour
medium action
8-9 wt

4-5wt is for?

would work as a starting point for small to medium rivers and the odd bass outing?

what about line i know i only want to fish dry flies--that surface hit excites me

below is is info i grabbed off the net

#5 Weight Fly Rods

~ Considered medium light

~ One of the most popular sizes for general trout fishing

~ Fishes tippets down to 2 pound test

~ Works well with tippets of 3 to 10 pound test

~ Works well with bushy dries up to size #6 or tiny emergers down to size #20

~ Casts comfortably to ranges of 60 feet with a size #12 fly

~ Feels good with mountain cutthroats or Alaska rainbows

looks like what i want...i wont be salmon fishing with it---resident trout and small bass in the spring and summer

what you think? ican get a nice ross rod 5wt 9ft---


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For smaller resident trout ,I use a 7.5' to 9' -3 or 4 weight slow to medium action for softer presentation and smaller flies,tippets etc..My 4 weight is also nice for river smallies .Anything heavier and I find the softer presentation of small dries less effected.I don't require the heavier 5 weight for even smallmouth unless it is my primary targetted fish.
I have found my fast action 10' -7 weight almost perfect for most Ontario tribs for steelhead.The fast action and weight allows for necessary long casts for swinging flies, as well as, and very importantly, is the ability to mend with the long belly steelhead line I use ,as well as the sinking tip set up often used.The same logic and setup is necessary for proper casting of the larger spey ,intruder,and weighted flies.Shorter ,lesser weight and slower action don't allow for this.I have used the same setup on the Saugeen and the grand and find on these larger river this setup is minimal and to effectively fish all these waters a longer switch rod in heavier weight ,fast action would be ideal.Smaller setups will limit the user to smaller tribs (bronte, etc.)
nice to feel these steelhead smash on the swing ...might give this a try to start as your success will be better than resident trout on small water (spooky,spooky fishing)as you are generally comfortable with this fish and it's waters anyway
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:00 AM

i am a float guy--that got bit with the fly fishing bug--i want to get a setup that will be good for a few years--400 budget...suggestions?

also stiffness of rod--i can imagine i want whippy but stiff just from my simple observations but i may be way off...help....also flies---soime sink, some float, line that goes with both the same? --thank you in advance


Having just purchased a very cheap fly rod to try and learn with, I was at Bass Pro on Sunday and the sales droid there (very nice guy and helpful!) was explaining a few things to this n00b (me!) about rods and reels. He showed me a rod for $109 that he said was a very good value for the money, and then he walked over to where they had rod/reel combos and showed me the exact same rod plus reel for $129
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:06 AM

i got my stuff there last night----ORVISSSSS baby
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:48 PM

i got my stuff there last night----ORVISSSSS baby




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#12 schnip

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:49 PM

sage is better?
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:51 PM

sage is better?



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industry standard bro


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#14 schnip

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:59 PM

have i made a mistake with the orvis
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:01 PM

have i made a mistake with the orvis
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No worries man...I think you will like the Clearwater...I fish the 4 wght


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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:04 PM

and the arbor access?
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:04 PM

When the bug bites you will have a rod for EVERY condition....save your pennies man...Posted ImagePosted Image
You will likely have rods from a number of manufacturers...

Sage Z-axis goes for about $800

I actually tried to break my XP on a fresh King an the Salmon River in Pulaski one year...no go...
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:05 PM

and the arbor access?


I have the earlier version...like I said, it's a workhorse, much like the Bauer...

I think you'll dig your setup
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:08 PM

i guessl buying a 6wt that i can use for small bass, panfish and some resident trout --and feathering the odd monster in is not gonna work lol--i hope i like the orvis stuff as i can get good deals---
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:10 PM

i guessl buying a 6wt that i can use for small bass, panfish and some resident trout --and feathering the odd monster in is not gonna work lol--i hope i like the orvis stuff as i can get good deals---


Dude--I used a 6 wght on the Miramichi for Atlantics!! it will do you well man...no worries
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