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[FISHIN'king]

what the heck is bottom bouncing? i dont know so plz help me. this nOOb needs help

[Klamp]

Here's a visual that might help. To the very left is your bait (what looks like an egg sack in this illustration).

[Float down]

That diagram is not accurate at all... Sorry man, bottom bouncing usually is done without a float, a few split shots on, and a hook and bait... The ultimate goal is so your bait drifts natural along the bottom of the river staying were most of the fish are hanging out.

Just cast as is and let the curent do the work.

[Swing4Steel]

ummmmm ya like that, but with no float! when you bounce you want to be as direct to shot as possible so you can feel tick tick of the lead on bottom and the light bites. i like braids for bouncing for sensitivity.

[Klamp]

That diagram is not accurate at all... Sorry man, bottom bouncing usually is done without a float, a few split shots on, and a hook and bait... The ultimate goal is so your bait drifts natural along the bottom of the river staying were most of the fish are hanging out.

Just cast as is and let the curent do the work.

Why's it 'not accurate at all'? You can do it with or without a float. At the very least you can use a tiny float as a strike indicator.

[efka]

there is a number of ways to bottom bounce. using a float is useless; it will either lift your rig or sink when the water gets too deep.

most common are:
1. fixed weight 1-2 feet above the hook.
2. sliding weight 1-2 feet above the hook
3. 3 ways swivel setup.
4. dropshot setup

[Klamp]

I've had success with it, I guess you go with what works. I'll try the methods you mention, which I suspect are better spinning than pin?

[efka]

klamp, please explain in details if you can. i can not imagine how a float will help you while bottom bouncing.

when using bigger float if you set up too high, you will have slack in your line cause your float will drag the sinkers, too low and you won't touch the bottom.
when using small float if you set up too high, your sinkers will be on the bottom holding the float in the current, too low and you float will sink keeping sinker on the bottom again.
am i missing anything?

[Klamp]

klamp, please explain in details if you can. i can not imagine how a float will help you while bottom bouncing.

when using bigger float if you set up too high, you will have slack in your line cause your float will drag the sinkers, too low and you won't touch the bottom.
when using small float if you set up too high, your sinkers will be on the bottom holding the float in the current, too low and you float will sink keeping sinker on the bottom again.
am i missing anything?

I dunno what you're missing. I got the setup from Raven's guide, so I assumed given their credibility it was a useful setup. It's certainly worked for me.

It's on page 8 of Raven's guide. In fact they recommend a big float. I'll try and pull a screenshot and post it.

[Klamp]

Per the Raven guide.

[efka]

i'm not saying it's impossible, all i asked was to explain how you use it.
i've seen similar pictures before, they look good on paper, or if you're fishing in swimming pool, i mean in theory it should work, but even in picture you can already see lots of slack
i just want to know how you fish with this rig when the depth change in the rivers.

[efka]

lets make it more realistic

[FISHIN'king]

You have a point efka..

[FISHIN'king]

unless its a sliding float it could work

[efka]

unless its a sliding float it could work

so when fish bites it will slide in the same way as slides when depth change. how will the float help to detect strikes?

[FISHIN'king]

again....its just stupid to use a float when bottom bouncing...makes sense

[georgianbaydrifter]

that is good rig though just no float

[Bug_Slinger]

I don't use a float when bottom bouncing... but what about using a properly weighted slip float/shot set up?

[georgianbaydrifter]

nomally when i drift i want the the fish to rise out of the pack to take the bait then head back down towards bottom. l love when the float just buries under the surface and not pulled down slowly or sideways

[schnip]

that raven rig is assuming you are in a current--most of the guys i have bottom bounced with use it for the mouth early in the salmon season--line---bell weight---swivel and then a foot or two of leader with an earplug or floating row sack---the ones you see with the weight on the bottom with the hook ties on diretly on the line ablove the weight are olympic snaggers---but you most definetly IMO need enough weight to stop the rig on one spot and let the bait dangle in the water movement----remember if there is one tiny rock or a twig and you slowly go by it while dragging a cinder block of weights u will snag steady....i take these sites with a grain of salt as most of the setups are for some dream river on a postcard in montana somewhere---not dredged water main we call the ganny lol