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[ChaseChrome]

EF is on point absolutely...
Perhaps Raven will devise any manner of fishing with a float to maintain their market share of float sales...just saying..."bottom line" its business...

[DILLIGAF?!]

as the question I've asked on the previous thread i've started. when using split shots or sinker 12" to 24" from your floating roe or floating bait, you don't need a float. and with the right attractant (visual & scent) there's no way the fish will turn it's back on you. and you don't need to know the depth of the water.

[Klamp]

While we're on the topic of using floats while bottom bouncing, you guys ever hear of "Six Minute Abs"?

http://www.viddler.com/v/c8809791

[NiagaraSteel]

This is what i use, just a smaller sinker, a roe bag and a pencil weight. Also smaller hook and shorter leader than said in the image.

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[georgianbaydrifter]

how do you snag a fish when casting 100 ft out into the briny deep?

[Knuguy]

---but you most definetly IMO need enough weight to stop the rig on one spot and let the bait dangle in the water movement----remember if there is one tiny rock or a twig and you slowly go by it while dragging a cinder block of weights u will snag steady....

Actually, as the name implies, bottom bouncing requires the sinker to move(bounce) along the bottom with the current and is problematic in areas with lots of rocks, sticks, or other snags.

[Spinninreel]

The big problem with bottom bouncing is the snags tha you get and having to retie. a common thing to use is the three way and for the weight use pencil lead and a piece of parachute cord that is designed to release the weight when you get snaged. All you need to do is put in another piece of pencil lead.

[schnip]

Actually, as the name implies, bottom bouncing requires the sinker to move(bounce) along the bottom with the current and is problematic in areas with lots of rocks, sticks, or other snags.

are you sure it isnt the bait bouncing around on the bottom freely?if you see the notty guys they hero cast there rig 10000ft out and sit there for 3 days..

[Knuguy]

The big problem with bottom bouncing is the snags tha you get and having to retie. a common thing to use is the three way and for the weight use pencil lead and a piece of parachute cord that is designed to release the weight when you get snaged. All you need to do is put in another piece of pencil lead.

Where do you get this 'parachute cord"? It sounds like it would be stronger than normal fishing line. Don't you need it to break first?

Also, I've never seen any 'pencil lead' sinkers in the stores. Is it avail at BP, for e.g, or do you need to buy it on-line?

Thx

[efka]

i think by talking about parachute cord he meant non-snag slinky weights

and this is how pencil lead looks like


some people use these to search the bottom

[georgianbaydrifter]

ive seen surgical tube used for slinky

[Knuguy]

Thx for that link, Efka. So, as I understand it, Spinnered is saying that you use a weaker line from the 3-way swivel down to either a 'pencil lead' or some shot put in a shoe lace or other hollow 'string' so that the sinker breaks off.

[Spinninreel]

Here are a couple of pictures to show how to rig and set up for bottom bouncing.Some people use tubing and some people use parachute cord to hold the pencil lead which is a heavy wire of lead as in the picture. The idea is that when you get the snag, you only use you weight and then cut a new piece and stick it in the end of the tubing. it is also good when you want to adjust your weight depending on the rate of flow.

I hope this helps.

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[Swing4Steel]

slinkys make the rig feel mushy. my buds and i use pencil sinkers similar to the dropshot sinker with the funny swivel cast in the top that efka posted (the ones we use just have a ring to tie to.dropshotters are$$$$$). rigged on a 3way so must of the time the sinker breaks off if you hang up. you can buy different sizes, but we usually buy the 1oz ones and trim some off if 1 oz is too much (keep in mind this is for heavy flows)

the idea is to get your bait to the bottom while trying to maintain as close to current speed as possible. too heavy and you will be dragging bottom and too slow. too light and you wont hit bottom. usually when you have the right amount of weight you feel the sinker "ticking" bottom. i like to use braid as the mainline to the 3way as you can feel way more. like floating, if something seems "funny" with your drift, set the hook!

[steelies]

olympic snaggers---

Lmfao, that is too funny! I think I peed a little.

[Knuguy]

ive seen surgical tube used for slinky

I've been playing around with split shots inside surgical tubing as well as inside clear vinyl tubing from the hardware store. The vinyl seems to be better because it is less buoyant and it expands a lot with temperature e.g. dip in hot water, put in shots, let it shrink. There's so much buoyancy in the surg tubing from the drugstore that it cancels out much of the lead weight. I used shots because I don't have ready access to 'pencil lead'.

Where do you buy 'parachute cord'?

[Swing4Steel]

pencil lead (sinkers) can be hard to find in the gta as its not really needed east (northeast?) of hamilton. you can get it at Peters tackle and bait in st catherines. just use splitshot around here, or you could try walking sinkers with the tie ring if its not too rocky.. i think they also have the bulk pencil lead (coils) with a hole in the center for bulk shotting under slips for heavy flows. never see that stuff around here either.........

[georgianbaydrifter]

for ganny pier i used to like using hook 1 ft of line to egg sinker and swivel then longer lead and floating sac. but now im getting hooked on lure casting off the piers

[Knuguy]

So I'll 'bounce' this thread to the top again to ask another question: Why not use a so-called 'pickerel rig' for bottom bouncing?

http://www.youtube.c...&v=yUpIS8m-j1g#!


BTW, some sort of automatic spell checker changed "pickerel' to 'pecker' when I first posted!

[RonnieTO]

pencil lead (sinkers) can be hard to find in the gta as its not really needed east (northeast?) of hamilton. you can get it at Peters tackle and bait in st catherines. just use splitshot around here, or you could try walking sinkers with the tie ring if its not too rocky.. i think they also have the bulk pencil lead (coils) with a hole in the center for bulk shotting under slips for heavy flows. never see that stuff around here either.........

Leaky: Canadian Tire in Brampton had the sinkers a week or so ago and Al Flaherty's in Toronto has coils of lead where you cut off the size you need & flatten the end or use tubing to attach it to your line