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[apz245]

Hey guys; I tried to make this thread before but I don't think it got approved; I did a search on the subject and found some useful threads, but I wanted to throw in my own experiences.

So twice this November we decided to go for Pike, once at Six Mile Lake, and the other time at Honey Harbour; it didn't go so well.

The first day we had big 6-8" minnows, but started off the day spinning, we covered a lot of water and structure (shallow bays with deep drop offs, still green vegetation, areas with fallen trees and other cover, etc) and absolutely nothing, so my buddies threw on the minnows for about half the trip (while I continued spinning) and yeah, still nothing.

The second trip we didn't get minnows, so spent the day spinning in our usual Pike locations (I haven't been with them to these 2 lakes but they regularly catch pike in both places while fishing for bass), and same story, (the sun came out a few times, but it was more cloudy)

we fished from 5-30 feet, sometimes a bit deeper

The weird thing is, both days I didn't see any signs of fish, I didn't see a single bait fish.

I tried to include as much info as possible for you guys, is there somewhere else we should be looking for Pike in the fall? or was it just one of those days?

[NiagaraSteel]

Well, to start off, generally warm water species (like pike and bass) stop biting when the weather gets less than 7 degrees. I bet if you did the same thing in the summer you would be catching lots. Pike like weed lines, drop offs and shelter. For instance, if you see a bunch of high weeds near you, cast right over them or through them. To avoid getting snagged in them, use a top water bait, like a jitterbug.

Hope this helps!

[apz245]

Well, to start off, generally warm water species (like pike and bass) stop biting when the weather gets less than 7 degrees. I bet if you did the same thing in the summer you would be catching lots. Pike like weed lines, drop offs and shelter. For instance, if you see a bunch of high weeds near you, cast right over them or through them. To avoid getting snagged in them, use a top water bait, like a jitterbug.

Hope this helps!

Hey Catfish, Pike are actually classified as a "cool water species" and the temperature outside was about 7 degrees, however the water was warmer; I really don't think it was the temperature.,,(I could be wrong though, I'm no Pike expert) but people regularly catch Pike ice fishing.

I've got to buy myself some top waters, as of right now all I have for getting through weeds are spinner baits. what do you guys think of weedless spoons?

[NiagaraSteel]

Weedless spoons work well. Or regular spoons when the water isn't snaggy. I'm no pike expert either, i just fish for them

[FishingNoob]

Pike have eluded me... But if the bait fish aren't there the pike aren't either.

[dockmuskie]

Pike have eluded me... But if the bait fish aren't there the pike aren't either.

FIND DEM BAITFISH

[apz245]

FIND DEM BAITFISH

We should have watched the fish finder for them, but we were looking for structure and didn't notice any big schools, it was weird, like both lakes were completely dead.

[apz245]

Weedless spoons work well. Or regular spoons when the water isn't snaggy. I'm no pike expert either, i just fish for them />

Yeah I think i'll grab a few when I'm in bass pro or Canadian tire next time, as for regular spoons, I've had a lot of luck with the yellow/orange for pike, and the classic red and white daredevil

[NiagaraSteel]

Go daredevil!!!

[Tjh70]

White and red twister tail worked well at M conservation area.

[apz245]

Go daredevil!!!

yeah, i like daredevil for spoons

[georgianbaydrifter]

fishing can be hard after turnover but when you find dem you get lots o fish

[FishingNoob]

fishing can be hard after turnover but when you find dem you get lots o fish

What the "turnover"?

[CanadianAngler87]

Well im sure you've herd before that hot air rises? Its the same for water. During the summer warm water sits ontop and gets colder as you get deeper. But water starts to act weird in a sense when it gets cold (around 39°F). The cooler water becomes more dense and will rise and generally float ontop of the warmer water, "Turning over" in a sense. If this didn't happen we would never have ice fishing because the ice would form on the bottom of the lake.

[FishingNoob]

Well im sure you've herd before that hot air rises? Its the same for water. During the summer warm water sits ontop and gets colder as you get deeper. But water starts to act weird in a sense when it gets cold (around 39°F). The cooler water becomes more dense and will rise and generally float ontop of the warmer water, "Turning over" in a sense. If this didn't happen we would never have ice fishing because the ice would form on the bottom of the lake.

Ya.... I know what your talking about. Ice is less dense then water. Good ole, H-bonds!

[apz245]

Well im sure you've herd before that hot air rises? Its the same for water. During the summer warm water sits ontop and gets colder as you get deeper. But water starts to act weird in a sense when it gets cold (around 39°F). The cooler water becomes more dense and will rise and generally float ontop of the warmer water, "Turning over" in a sense. If this didn't happen we would never have ice fishing because the ice would form on the bottom of the lake.

I've always heard "the turnover" in fishing literature and never knew what it meant, thanks.

So basically you're saying after the turnover, to fish deep?

I wish i could remember the temperature of the water we were fishing

[FishingNoob]

I've always heard "the turnover" in fishing literature and never knew what it meant, thanks.

So basically you're saying after the turnover, to fish deep?

I wish i could remember the temperature of the water we were fishing

exactly!

[CanadianAngler87]

I've always heard "the turnover" in fishing literature and never knew what it meant, thanks.

So basically you're saying after the turnover, to fish deep?

I wish i could remember the temperature of the water we were fishing

No problem, id fish where the bait fish are. Alot of vegitation dies off and bait fish seek refuge in different places. Rock piles are good because rocks heat up and offer a warm hideout for bait. Deeper weedbeds are an other good start. But dont be afraid to go super shallow either.

[FishingNoob]

No problem, id fish where the bait fish are. Alot of vegitation dies off and bait fish seek refuge in different places. Rock piles are good because rocks heat up and offer a warm hideout for bait. Deeper weedbeds are an other good start. But dont be afraid to go super shallow either.

Good idea, last time I went out - last weekend, went really shallow and targeted the only remaining weeds, got natta... Might head out to some rock piles.

[dockmuskie]

there are a couple links in a previous discussion that might help with turnover and fishing help

http://www.ontariofi...r-fishing-help/

(not trying to pump the tires of my own previous topic just trying to share the knowledge!)