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Rainbow Trout
Posted 01 February 2014 - 08:56 PM
amazing. I could easily but a bend in the rod at that angle 75m out while holding the rod up high with two hands.
that'd be a tough angle to get to, maybe if the fish were right below your feet, and you held the handle right vertical, but who holds a rod that way?
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Perch
Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:22 PM
lol
Funny stuff on here.
A stress test is not done for marketing purposes; it is a small part of the engineering design process. And in some cases the tests are not real life situations. (even though high sticking does exist in real life...try landing a fish on your own with a 15' rod and a compact net)
An advertisement is a marketing strategy.
Perch
Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:30 PM
amazing. I could easily but a bend in the rod at that angle 75m out while holding the rod up high with two hands.
Setting the hook on a snag while doing a hero drift in big water?
I can see it happening...lol
Shiner Minnow
Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:48 PM
Yo! Muskybait,
Fortunately you wrote a shorter post that didn't use big numbers and words so I was able to understand your point this time. With that said, I fully agree with you that these rod strength demonstrations are complete hot air just to push a product.
Say, speaking of "keep the math in life", here's a good real life math problem for ya son:
I make $2 above minimum wage filling kerosene pails at a chemical plant. How much do I make an hour?
Here's a hint: not enough to give two flying figs about high school math.
Rainbow Trout
Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:55 PM
Yo! Muskybait,
Fortunately you wrote a shorter post that didn't use big numbers and words so I was able to understand your point this time. With that said, I fully agree with you that these rod strength demonstrations are complete hot air just to push a product.
theres a force gauge on these machines that measure how much force it took for the product to fail, it is done with random selections from every batch of rods for quality control. from the original model, they get a control number, and they use that number to test subsequent productions to be sure they are up to original standards. its how ANY reputable company operates. product testing doesn't mean taking the product out and using it to be sure it works, it also mean putting into extreme situations and finding the failure point so that when a warranty claim comes up, they have a solid idea of what happened
Shiner Minnow
Posted 01 February 2014 - 10:35 PM
theres a force gauge on these machines that measure how much force it took for the product to fail, it is done with random selections from every batch of rods for quality control. from the original model, they get a control number, and they use that number to test subsequent productions to be sure they are up to original standards. its how ANY reputable company operates. product testing doesn't mean taking the product out and using it to be sure it works, it also mean putting into extreme situations and finding the failure point so that when a warranty claim comes up, they have a solid idea of what happened
I am not saying these rods are hot air. If I had the bills to drop on one of these sweethearts, I'd be waiting in line with you just based on the G Loomis reputation alone.
I'm just saying a machine beating up a rod with numbers and buzz words I don't understand means nothing without some dude busting several big ugly chinook without killing the rod.
Shiner Minnow
Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:20 AM
In my field of work we do alot of stress testing on various materials and we know the value at which they will yield but we never design to these maximum values because of manufacturing and user error. This same theory can be applied here, just because one rod bends like that doesnt mean the next one will....however, 90% of the time it's angler error that will break a rod... car doors, highsticking, lack of concentration on a hot fish etc.
But here are some funny stories sent in to ORVIS' rod warranty service...good for a chuckle
I was guiding this gal and her husband on the Deschutes. She was a lot younger and a lot prettier than he was and hadn’t really ever fly fished much. He told me to go and spend some time with her, and he’d go fish the run upstream. Well, within six or eight casts, she hooks a steelhead. Then, right after that, she hooks another one! That’s just amazing, and I’m thinking that this is going to be a great tip. At this point, her husband walks down, and she hooks another steelhead. This is one hot fish. It makes its run, and her husband is giving advice—do this, do that—and then it charges right at her. That fish goes right between her legs and then the rod tip goes right between her legs. Well I’ll be damned if I was gonna reach down there and grab after it. Needless to say, that rod broke.”
Shiner Minnow
Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:21 AM
And the second that didnt wanna send apaprently...
We had one sad customer who sent in five rods, all broken into eight-inch pieces. What happened was that he wanted to go striper fishing, and his fiancee didn’t want him to go. Well, he went. His future wife wasn’t too happy about that, so when he got back, she busted every one of his rods. We replaced them, of course, but in his note to us, he asked us, ‘Can you send the new rods to my parent’s house, please?’”
Crappie
Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:08 AM
funny story with the fiancée though,,, didn't end well for mr. striper fisherman!!
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