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[FrequentFlyer]

If you doubted the strength of a rod, this will change your mind, watch the max breakage test on their FB page

 

https://www.facebook...fishwithgloomis

 

that is insane

[usernamehere]

only if all rods can arrive/stay in stores in pristine condition then we would have less breakage problems

[MuskieBait]

When does a steelhead or salmon pull with that kind of load on the rod with such slow and consistent pressure?

 

Try loading the rod like that, then giving the rod a few violent and inconsistent yanks...and we'll see how it survives...

 

To me, this kind of test doesn't simulate a real fishing scenario. Sure, it's some sort of basic guideline...but you can't extrapolate that result to real fishing scenarios...

[guest]

strange....that they do these test and they are so unrealistic...people go nut s though whe they see the rod bend ...amazing marketing--another  all-about-money scenario love it

[FrequentFlyer]

All rod companies do this test. It not about marketing whatsoever so Remy stalk talking out your @as again. This test determines what kind of load strain a rod can take there is a built in scale that will tell them at what pound the rod broke. Its ALL rod manufacturers test their materials.

This kind of test is done for everything g ever made. So when you go to company with a warranty claim cause your product broke while doing activity x, they know the kinds of force of pressure it took for that material to fail

[fishing with a fly]

Can't we all just get along I think we all need a group hug hahahahahaha lol

[fishing with a fly]

J/k

[staffman]

The rod isn't a float rod , No one knows if they will bring back an IMX float rod.

[fishing with a fly]

And now for my real answer both jmat and remy are right all rod companies do this to show how much flex there rod has do I buy in to all this well somewhat but I do think some of it is marketing while it shows how muc a rod will bend before it breaks that's in a controlled situation it would never be like that on the water

[troutddicted]

Hook a chinny standing up on a rock in the gorge and try to turn the thing after it decides to sit out in a fast current 75+ meters out... loadus maximus achieved

[FrequentFlyer]

The rod isn't a float rod , No one knows if they will bring back an IMX float rod.

 

 

i think they are, the handle design in the january 29 indicates a float rod as well as a spinning, they said 27 models are coming out

[MuskieBait]

Hook a chinny standing up on a rock in the gorge and try to turn the thing after it decides to sit out in a fast current 75+ meters out... loadus maximus achieved

 

Chinny sitting out in the current 75+ meters out...the rod tip is not pointed at your feet...it is pointed away from you 75+ meters out...

 

So...for example...you hold the rod up with the fish loading the rod...we'll assume that the rod tip is held 2 meters up...the fish is 75 meters out...which gives a sine angle of 1.5 degrees...which means the rod tip is not pointed at your feet...as depicted in the video.

 

Even if you are standing on a rock that is 10 feet above the water...now giving the rod tip a vertical distance of 5 meters above the waterline, you are still looking at a 3.8 degree angle.

 

The max load, in your given case, is distributed across the entire arc of the rod with the rod tip pointed outward. The rod would NEVER bend over in a teardrop shape as depicted. It would be a semicircle at best. The pressure would NEVER concentrate into a tiny little arc at the wide end of that teardrop shape.

 

Again, video is unrealistic...unless you try to highstick a fish as you go to land it...but we all know what a headshake can do to a rod when you highstick it...and it will not be the slow and consistent pressure applied to the rod when a fish shakes its head and thrash around in shallow water...

 

If you need to pull the rod back enough to form a teardrop shape curve...maybe you should be using more adequate equipment to pull fish out of current...something with a little more backbone and a little less spring...

[FrequentFlyer]

Chinny sitting out in the current 75+ meters out...the rod tip is not pointed at your feet...it is pointed away from you 75+ meters out...

 

So...for example...you hold the rod up with the fish loading the rod...we'll assume that the rod tip is held 2 meters up...the fish is 75 meters out...which gives a sine angle of 1.5 degrees...which means the rod tip is not pointed at your feet...as depicted in the video.

 

Even if you are standing on a rock that is 10 feet above the water...now giving the rod tip a vertical distance of 5 meters above the waterline, you are still looking at a 3.8 degree angle.

 

The max load, in your given case, is distributed across the entire arc of the rod with the rod tip pointed outward. The rod would NEVER bend over in a teardrop shape as depicted. It would be a semicircle at best. The pressure would NEVER concentrate into a tiny little arc at the wide end of that teardrop shape.

 

Again, video is unrealistic...unless you try to highstick a fish as you go to land it...but we all know what a headshake can do to a rod when you highstick it...and it will not be the slow and consistent pressure applied to the rod when a fish shakes its head and thrash around in shallow water...

 

If you need to pull the rod back enough to form a teardrop shape curve...maybe you should be using more adequate equipment to pull fish out of current...something with a little more backbone and a little less spring...

lol kill with math

 

also true with the high sticking, its how most rods get broken when being fished with, car doors and trunk lids i think are the number 1 cause of broken rods overall

 

and of course the video is unrealistic, its a stress test, however, the breakage point is the same in either either situation, this test just gives them a benchmark, ie, how much force does it take to break the rod.  and then they use that information in warranty claims.

 

also gives the angler the confidence they can lean into a fish and the rod isn't likely to break, hopefully your line breaks before the rod 

[staffman]

[staffman]

There does appear to be a float rod 13' at $450.

[nate82]

Chinny sitting out in the current 75+ meters out...the rod tip is not pointed at your feet...it is pointed away from you 75+ meters out...

 

So...for example...you hold the rod up with the fish loading the rod...we'll assume that the rod tip is held 2 meters up...the fish is 75 meters out...which gives a sine angle of 1.5 degrees...which means the rod tip is not pointed at your feet...as depicted in the video.

 

Even if you are standing on a rock that is 10 feet above the water...now giving the rod tip a vertical distance of 5 meters above the waterline, you are still looking at a 3.8 degree angle.

 

The max load, in your given case, is distributed across the entire arc of the rod with the rod tip pointed outward. The rod would NEVER bend over in a teardrop shape as depicted. It would be a semicircle at best. The pressure would NEVER concentrate into a tiny little arc at the wide end of that teardrop shape.

 

Again, video is unrealistic...unless you try to highstick a fish as you go to land it...but we all know what a headshake can do to a rod when you highstick it...and it will not be the slow and consistent pressure applied to the rod when a fish shakes its head and thrash around in shallow water...

 

If you need to pull the rod back enough to form a teardrop shape curve...maybe you should be using more adequate equipment to pull fish out of current...something with a little more backbone and a little less spring...

 

Dont you love it when you make a little joke and some know-it-all comes along and throws the school books in your face?  lol

 

It's ok guy, we get it, rod loading is based on simple physics which we know you studied in full.  To the rest of us, big fish fully loading a rod = wow you should have been there it was awesome until my rod blew apart that thing mustuv been HUGE!

 

Keep the math in school lol.

[MuskieBait]

Dont you love it when you make a little joke and some know-it-all comes along and throws the school books in your face?  lol

 

It's ok guy, we get it, rod loading is based on simple physics which we know you studied in full.  To the rest of us, big fish fully loading a rod = wow you should have been there it was awesome until my rod blew apart that thing mustuv been HUGE!

 

Keep the math in school lol.

 

 

Keep the math in LIFE, not in school...everything that surrounds us depend on math and science in one form or another. Your beloved IMX was not developed by feel and touch only...chemistry, physics and computer mathematical modelling of stress has a lot to do with your beauty rod. So yes, I would keep math and science in LIFE.

[MuskieBait]

BTW, I don't study physics in full...it's just basic highschool geometry and physics that everyone should know. I'm a healthcare researcher at the moment. If we do not use models that mimic actual diseases, our results cannot translate to realistic treatment toward patients...and we'll be wasting a whole lot of donation money on cancer research that is not applicable to anything at all.

 

It is my pet peeve to see things like these. If a product is to be tested, it should be tested based on real situations...not something that "looks great" but have nothing to do with actual application...otherwise, it's just done for marketing and the sheep that buys into such marketing.

[NADO]

amazing. I could easily but a bend in the rod at that angle 75m out while holding the rod up high with two hands.

[LordMykiss]

you can easily get the rod bend like that. off a boat? when the fish goes under the boat.  trout when there is an under cut bank and they go under. when you are approaching the fish and it takes off to opposite direction of where you rod is pointing at as you are holding the rod handle way up in the air.. just depends how big the fish is. and that rod in the video is not necessarily a specific rod. it could be any of the possible  few rods they will make. maybe the centre pin version does not bend the same way as the UL spinning rod does. some rods before to the handle, some 1/3 some 2/3 some middle so on. also if you use the proper testing line on that rod it wont bend that much, line will snap way better the rod. i am sure they were using rope to test it out.

 

Raven im8 11.5 and 13.5 dont bend anywhere near each other, that could go for any rod from same company with the same material.