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[DILLIGAF?!]

I usually paint both sides of the spoons. but only half of each side. like how cleo's are painted. but i use mooselook spoons and krocs. I like them shaped a little longer.

[Shawarma]

Pump, think of it this way: If you paint both sides, regardless of the action, it'll all just glow and could take away from the catchiness of it. If you paint one side, or half of each side, as the spoon is doing it's dance, that glow will flicker because the non-glowing parts will be like a "break".  Makes it more interesting... now, is it more interesting to the fish as well? You'd hope so..

[getin]

It defiantly will vary from river to river. Day length window is used together with flow and temp. Flow and temp changes from river to river. There are close to a dozen Ontario rivers that I fish on a regular basis, and paying close attention to day length window has increased my catch rate on every one of them, but all have different peak times. I keep very meticulous notes for every day spend on the water and because of it I can key in on ideal times to fish certain tribs.

 

The day length theory isn't new, but on the grand scale of things hasn't been practiced a lot as far as I can tell. I know Matt Straw has done articles in STS and In-Fisherman magazines pertaining to this theory.

 

It's like a fish's way of telling time. For salmon, as the days grow shorter in the fall, the urgency to spawn increases. For steelhead it's the opposite, the urgency increases as the days grow longer in the spring. They've got a short window in which to get their business done and day length helps them determine when that window is closing.

 

The day lenght may be a factor, but why not the water temperature, which is a more sensible, and stronger factor?

[PUMP KNOWS]

 

 

 

[PUMP KNOWS]

no, i usually just paint the bottom part. i tend to cast spoons when almost sun up. or sunset. I prefer it because I usually fish alone. I've been watching the cliff here at the east end and you can see some fish in casting distance around 730 to 8pm. can't tell if these are browns or salmon though.

 

 

darn, I painted the top part.

 

I should've waited when you replied...haha

[fishfearme]

Getin - Water temp is a big factor, I said use day length windows together with water flow and temp, Using the day length helps to narrow down run timing even further. Like I said, after I started factoring it in my seasons are longer and much more productive.

[Beman9010]

Dose anyone know how the river mouths near home are doing??

[Christopher K]

Dose anyone know how the river mouths near home are doing??

Wow.

[FrequentFlyer]

Dose anyone know how the river mouths near home are doing??

 

ummmm theres water, its wet its cold, some seaweed in it........

[Beman9010]

Just asking to see if anyone has tryed. I know it has water and Cold out latly. Just asking anyone has got any or went to try cuz I'm going tomorrow or Friday to try.

[PUMP KNOWS]

I heard people are catching sheepshead on spoons at the mouth of the rivers

[getin]

Getin - Water temp is a big factor, I said use day length windows together with water flow and temp, Using the day length helps to narrow down run timing even further. Like I said, after I started factoring it in my seasons are longer and much more productive.

Thank you for the point. My question Is this. If i am correct, the day length is shortened a few minutes each day we move into fall. That means to get a noticeable day length change of say an hour would happen in like 1 month. Within such period the water temp has changed quite a bit. How can the day length can be used to narrow down the run time when day length is going only one way (shorter days) and quite predictably. Is there like a break point? Like when the day length changes from say 13.5 hrs to 13.2 hrs? Thanks again

[Christopher K]

Just asking to see if anyone has tryed. I know it has water and Cold out latly. Just asking anyone has got any or went to try cuz I'm going tomorrow or Friday to try.

Just kidding buddy. I was out last night at the mouth of the humber, we got like 30 fish in just an hour! Marshmallows on trebles and 200lb braid were key.

[DILLIGAF?!]

darn, I painted the top part.

 

I should've waited when you replied...haha

I think it will work eitherway pump. looking at the pictures it won't make a difference. I always just had this logic that fish stalk it's prey from below. but that's just me. those cleos look good. don't forget to bring your charging lights. i find glow paints don't last as long as lures that are designed to glow.

[Knuguy]

Dose anyone know how the river mouths near home are doing??

 

I guess it depends on where you call home. Where do you live?

[BowSlayer]

Just kidding buddy. I was out last night at the mouth of the humber, we got like 30 fish in just an hour! Marshmallows on trebles and 200lb braid were key.

lmao did you try the little pieces of Styrofoam on trebles? We hammered them last night on them big trebles were key as you stated!

[FrequentFlyer]

get your self one of these to go with that 200lb braid

 

[ChasinTails]

Lmao FF i think thats a little small don't you?

[getin]

^^^

Question... I bought some glow paint. 

Hey Pump,

 

What kind of paint and where did you buy it? It looks like it is a transparent coating rather than a paint (which is good). Is the glow bright enough? I am yet to get a glow spoon that is bright enough to see from say 40ft.

[GoodenTight]

that is how I would have painted them pump. I have a blue/ white and a green/ white (among other patterns) of J13s but the ones with white have colored tops and white underbellies.

 

Last night was another miss fire and with these next few hot days strung together, I don't think much will be going on pier side. Theyre close, but will back off in this heat