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#41 Diana Danger

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:38 PM

You will do well, young skywalker

 

 

I use the swivel like a split shot, it helps me to present the bait to the fish.

 

With long leaders, I noticed most of the time my float would move faster then my bait.

 

Lots of trial and error, do what works for you.

 

 

Back when I fished a Shot line I always made it 1.5 times the depth I thought I would need. This way you can fish shallow and deep with no issues, I used a surgeons know when connected my main and shot (a swivel would sink and mess up your drift)

 

 

Is this right?  I understand the surgeons knot should be well above the float, but for easy picture purposes, is this the basic idea?

 

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#42 Kit

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:48 PM

Loop to loop is easy and faster. So shot line then swivel then leader. And shot pattern depends on current and depth.
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#43 Diana Danger

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:55 PM

Loop to loop is easy and faster. So shot line then swivel then leader. And shot pattern depends on current and depth.

 

So the float sits on my shot line, correct?


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#44 DILLIGAF?!

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:56 PM

float sits on your main.


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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:57 PM

float swivel - shotline - swivel - leader that's how i do it. sometimes your leader hold better so the breaking point would be on the shotline. If you're worried about line twist...you can put your float on your shotline. with a swivel above it.


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#46 Shawarma

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:59 PM

this is what i think people are suggesting for a high vis line.

 

 

Main line -> float (surgical tubing or stopper) -> micro swivel -> shot line -> micro swivel -> leader. 


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#47 Kit

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:59 PM

Yes. Always use a micro swivel to connect your leader to shot line. When you get snagged you loose your leader not your entire shot line with float. And always use a leader line 2lb less then your main so it always breaks at the swivel.
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Posted 03 October 2014 - 02:08 PM

Let me help.

 

I literally run the easiest set up with high vis line and bank as many or more (not bragging just strengthening my point) than others around. I rock a 10lb main raven hi yellow. on this line, I have my float, and approx 70% of my shot. I then tie a micro swivel (f......... I need to go buy more actually I just remember this now) and then tie a 3 ft piece of fluro. I carry drennan only, 5 and 6 lbs. I was rocking 5lb all Sep for the chin dogs. It is super strong. I DO put shot on my leader line. In hundreds of fish over the years I have never, EVER snapped a leader at a shot pinch. Ever.

 

 

MAIN:
Float

shot

SWIVEL

FLURO

shot

presentation

 

 

 

Simple. Fish on.dont over complicate things


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#49 Shawarma

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 02:28 PM

^ pretty much what i do right now. 

 

I'll second goodentight's "don't over complicate things". 

 

The idea of two swivels makes me tense for some reason. Too many knots.. i don't like tying knots.


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#50 Diana Danger

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 02:34 PM

^ pretty much what i do right now. 

 

I'll second goodentight's "don't over complicate things". 

 

The idea of two swivels makes me tense for some reason. Too many knots.. i don't like tying knots.

 

 

Are you getting out this weekend???


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Posted 03 October 2014 - 02:39 PM

Let me help.

I literally run the easiest set up with high vis line and bank as many or more (not bragging just strengthening my point) than others around. I rock a 10lb main raven hi yellow. on this line, I have my float, and approx 70% of my shot. I then tie a micro swivel (f......... I need to go buy more actually I just remember this now) and then tie a 3 ft piece of fluro. I carry drennan only, 5 and 6 lbs. I was rocking 5lb all Sep for the chin dogs. It is super strong. I DO put shot on my leader line. In hundreds of fish over the years I have never, EVER snapped a leader at a shot pinch. Ever.


MAIN:
Float
shot

SWIVEL

FLURO
shot
presentation



Simple. Fish on.dont over complicate things


Yup exactly my setup. And I use high viz line too. Never had a problem with the fish "seeing" my main high viz line.
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#52 GoodenTight

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 02:41 PM

I cna't imagine I will ever run a double swivel rig. Just thinking about it gives me a headache.


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Posted 03 October 2014 - 06:59 PM

K.I.S.S= Keep It Simple Stupid! or Keep It Stupid Simple!  just run the setup you've been running, you haven't had an issue catching and landing fish with, don;t fix what isn't broken


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 08:48 AM

FG whatever your setup is when you were using your spinning reel. It's pretty much the same. I've seen your pictures of nice steels. follow the same setup but with a pin and different main line. the rest should still be the same.


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 10:57 AM

K.I.S.S= Keep It Simple Stupid! or Keep It Stupid Simple!  just run the setup you've been running, you haven't had an issue catching and landing fish with, don;t fix what isn't broken

^^ this^^


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 04:06 PM

I was using a shimano spinnig reel. It was cute, but no where near as sexy as this thing!


Good advice, thanks bud!

X2. It's going to take some time getting use to casting and more important how much pressure you can used whilst fighting a fish. However once you get used to it there no turning back.
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Posted 04 October 2014 - 04:13 PM

Have fun with the pin!  I remember I got my first pin just over a year ago and fished it both summer and winter (ice fishing lakers + pin = awesome sauce).  Just use it for everything, bottom bouncing, casting spinners and cranks, multi-species (carp + pin = awesome sauce as well).  Use it all the time, and you will learn how to cast in several ways and how to handle and fight fish.  

 

As for hi-vis line, I found that I only used it the first fall, after I got used to using it, I ditched it for some regular mono.  Like everyone says, Raven is decent line, cheap and handles nicely.  I first thought it was 'cheap' line because of the price, but I still line up with it every once and a while.  Hi-Vis line ain't needed once you grasp the ebb and flow of pinning.  So if you eventually use regular line for your main line then you won't need a shot line. That's too much line to be carrying around in the wader pockets anyways lol.

 

I don't use special leader line either, just straight up mono.  Don't have issues getting hook ups, as long as the roe is deliciously juicy!  I guess some spots the fish are a lot more spooky and people will downsize to 4lb and under.  But if the fishing is that tough, I'd change spots, change rivers, or pack it in anyways.  I once did get the special flouro leader but didn't find any difference in hookup %


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