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[GuitarBuildingAngler]

Ugh Simms.... lol

 

 

Try LL Bean. Life time warranty, no questions asked. If you don't think they lasted their useful life, LL Bean will get you a new pair. 

[Kit]

 

 

God I cant stand that guy lol. He sure is aging though jeeze. 

[Shawarma]

There's one guarantee on ALL waders.
Their going to leak one day.
I'm not disputing Simms quality.
But I am disputing the cost.
They've long past the reasonable cost factor. I would love to know the actual mark up percentage as compared to actual manufacturing cost? IMO they would sell alot more product with a more reasonable retail price. Probably increase their quarterly profits.

Their brand isn't about being cheap waders. That's the difference here and expensive waders that are boasted as the best have a markup. Tis the order of things everywhere.

[DILLIGAF?!]

it's all about needs and wants. Do we all need to have waders when fishing? I make do without waders but it gives me an advantage over the fish when I'm wearing one so that becomes a necessity when I want to land one. Does it have to be top of the line? No. Do I want a top of the line? yes, but not at the current price they are being sold. I started out with a $49 waders from CT....had worn an Orvis waders when it was on sale for $139....I very happy until I worn it down and decided to give redington a try. pretty much the same. Good. I don't really pay attention to all this stuff when I'm fishing. You can either make your fishing adventure very expensive...or you can make it very cheap...one thing is for sure...fish don't descriminate.

[Shawarma]

^ i don't know Dilli, they've been discriminating against me for a while! lol.

[James5354]

You get what you pay for, if you get 5-6 seasons out of a pair of simms or patagonia that cost you 5-6 bills thats actually not bad, thats about a 100 bucks a season, rather than to buy cheap waders that wont last and having to buy  every 1-2 season.

[Swing4Steel]

I'm well over 50 days with my simms. That's less than 10 bucks a trip to be dry and comfortable. Well worth it even if they crapped out now

[Borms]

I started off with the CT 69.99 special... worked until I found new ones. Its about comfort and they dont make u catch more fish.....

As a novice, I picked up the CT Outlander ones.  So far I've had no issues with them.  The neoprene keeps me warm.  My only complaint might be that the boots are a little hunky, and traction isn't the greatest.  So far no leaks ... except for when I fall into deep pools   

 

As some one mentioned, it's about being comfortable while on the water.

[Paul1913]

As a novice, I picked up the CT Outlander ones.  So far I've had no issues with them.  The neoprene keeps me warm.  My only complaint might be that the boots are a little hunky, and traction isn't the greatest.  So far no leaks ... except for when I fall into deep pools   

 

As some one mentioned, it's about being comfortable while on the water.

 I started with the vinyl ones, so it was hot for me.. My legs / feet got way too hot.. so comfort wasn't there.. 

[Berg]

Sorry for fuelling the off-topic fire, but:

 

There's one guarantee on ALL waders.
Their going to leak one day.
I'm not disputing Simms quality.
But I am disputing the cost.
They've long past the reasonable cost factor. I would love to know the actual mark up percentage as compared to actual manufacturing cost? IMO they would sell alot more product with a more reasonable retail price. Probably increase their quarterly profits.

 

As a huge fan of my Simms I feel the need to defend them here...

 

Now, the G3's did seem to rise in price over the past year. However, their wader line seems to rise in price points, and the price of the G3 for example, being made in America (higher labour cost), and having better materials (5-layer GoreTex), actually sits at a proportionately lower price point than the costs involved would dictate, in my opinion, relative to the Headwaters, for example. The G3 is known to be their best-seller and is viewed by many as the best-valued wader on the market. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find their margin on the G3 is lower percentage-wise than the Headwaters, for example. They do this to capture higher market share at that price-point, and I think I speak for many when I say they do it very well. The end result is a phenomenal wader at a relatively competitive price for the angler.

 

At the end of the day, waders are for the fisher and not for the fish. 

[flandogg]

I'm well over 50 days with my simms. That's less than 10 bucks a trip to be dry and comfortable. Well worth it even if they crapped out now

AND even if they did crap out, you could get aa repair/ new pair with their amazing customer service for a fraction of the cost. +1 for Simms

[DILLIGAF?!]

Price, comfort, durability & reviews that would make one decide which one they will buy And most consumers always see that TOP of the LINE means - the most expensive. i've seen the simms line of waders (almost bought one) I've seen the Patagonia line...(i'd say really good too but I'd say the simms probably are better, but who knows?) They are great looking waders, and must feel really good wearing them. I ended up still getting the much much more affordable Orvis waders with extra 3 bills in my pocket... 

 

When I was starting with CT waders...I soldiered an entire winter season with them on the rivers...in search of fish. and looking back, I feel like I don't need to upgrade to anything more expensive than a redington or orvis. This is my kind of waders at the price I want. that also goes to my fishing gear.

[flandogg]

Price, comfort, durability & reviews that would make one decide which one they will buy And most consumers always see that TOP of the LINE means - the most expensive. i've seen the simms line of waders (almost bought one) I've seen the Patagonia line...(i'd say really good too but I'd say the simms probably are better, but who knows?) They are great looking waders, and must feel really good wearing them. I ended up still getting the much much more affordable Orvis waders with extra 3 bills in my pocket... 

 

When I was starting with CT waders...I soldiered an entire winter season with them on the rivers...in search of fish. and looking back, I feel like I don't need to upgrade to anything more expensive than a redington or orvis. This is my kind of waders at the price I want. that also goes to my fishing gear.

 

Both solid companies IMO. I was actually walking out the front door with a pair of Orvis waders, when the sales rep. stopped me and said that he had a pair of Simms convertibles for almost the same price on clearance in the back. Just happened to be my lucky day!

[Borms]

Before I got waders, I just trekked through the water in my shorts and cheap pair of shows.  Until I can justify $200-$500 to my wife on fishing gear, I'll stick to my CT $35 clearance neoprene boots, and $70 waders.

 

 

At the end of the day it's just water!

[Aqua]

But in February its ice - cold, cold ice...

[Borms]

But in February its ice - cold, cold ice...

True enough - Marching in the waters at that time doesn't interest me, yet.

[artimus001]

Before I got waders, I just trekked through the water in my shorts and cheap pair of shows.  Until I can justify $200-$500 to my wife on fishing gear, I'll stick to my CT $35 clearance neoprene boots, and $70 waders.

 

 

At the end of the day it's just water!

happy wife; happy life

 

my old Red Balls (PVC/nylon)did the trick for me, for many years. the key to comfort was a decent layering, and staying away from cotton.

[PUMP KNOWS]

Both solid companies IMO. I was actually walking out the front door with a pair of Orvis waders, when the sales rep. stopped me and said that he had a pair of Simms convertibles for almost the same price on clearance in the back. Just happened to be my lucky day!

 

Very lucky

 

Convertibles FTW