The set up. 7.5ft leader. the indicator is in about 3ft . 24" tippet. pegged bead 2 inch above the hook. How is this different from Float fishing with beads?
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Fly fishing with beads
#1
Posted 18 December 2015 - 11:11 AM
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#2
Posted 18 December 2015 - 11:23 AM
usually when flyfishing the weight added above bead will tick bottom and the bead will tumble more, when floatfishing the last weight is suspended and the bead will ride just above bottom
#3
Posted 18 December 2015 - 01:43 PM
Its different because you are doing the exact same thing you would be doing with a float rod but making it unnecessarily harder for yourself lol
#4
Posted 18 December 2015 - 02:03 PM
Its different because you are doing the exact same thing you would be doing with a float rod but making it unnecessarily harder for yourself lol
I get that Nado lol. But the fact that it's more convenient for me to bushwack with a fly gear than a centerpin gear is why I chose too. But someone told me I was lining for fish. This was the first time I did it on the fly and got a steely on the corner of it's lip and the bead slid all the way to my hook. I can't tell what's happening underwater but yeah. I don't really know if the fish was flossed but not my intention...i lost 3 soft hackle flies and ran out of dry flies so I switched to beads.
#5
Posted 18 December 2015 - 02:09 PM
its the same except on a fly rod i dont have to reel in every cast
just a few strips and pitch it upstream.
much less downtime..
dat mending tho
#6
Posted 18 December 2015 - 02:40 PM
Don't think it's the same.
Yeah it's a similar concept, but you will have less shot on your leader therefore you'll sink to the bottom much slower. Also, the drag-free qualities of a centerpin and 13ft rod can't matched. I'm still not convinced an upstream mend is really drag-free. And lastly, can't imagine you'll get the same hook-set, which is key. Your line is typically off the water and relatively taught to your rod in centerpin fishing. With the fly line you'll need lots of line on the water behind the indicator to get the drag-free drift, and you'll be struggling to tighten that slack and set the hook fast enough.
Having the fish hooked in the corner of the mouth with the bead slid down to the hook is basically the exact scenario you're looking for, so if you've done it, maybe it is pretty effective after all. Don't know if it will be as effective as centerpin/longrod/float all the time.
#7
Posted 18 December 2015 - 03:36 PM
I feel a cp vs fly war coming lol.
its the same except on a fly rod i dont have to reel in every cast
just a few strips and pitch it upstream.
much less downtime..
dat mending tho
What Shmog said, and I find that with a fly setup, there's less weight on the line, so it'll take some more time to reach bottom. Considering switching to a glass beads for fly outfits.
#8
Posted 18 December 2015 - 04:53 PM
I feel a cp vs fly war coming lol.
What Shmog said, and I find that with a fly setup, there's less weight on the line, so it'll take some more time to reach bottom. Considering switching to a glass beads for fly outfits.
tried glass beads...they are pretty good but I think you will need less split shots or nothing at all. they're quite heavy. but they do work pretty well.
#9
Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:02 PM
usually when flyfishing the weight added above bead will tick bottom and the bead will tumble more, when floatfishing the last weight is suspended and the bead will ride just above bottom
I dont know much about float fishing, but this is a great point about indicator fly fishing ... In many nymphing setups, Its exactly like drift fishing/bottom bouncing/bobber dogging
#10
Posted 18 December 2015 - 09:34 PM
the beads were originally made for fly fishing, the float guys have stolen them though
the difference is the same as a float fisherman drifting a fly under their float vs you having a fly under an indicator, or swinging
#11
Posted 19 December 2015 - 01:55 PM
I have done it both ways, they fish pretty similar. Obviously center pins are fantastic for making long drag free drifts of anything from roe, beads, a fly thats what they are made to do.
I tend to fly fish more but that's just personal preference, if looking purely for numbers I think likely the center pins wins out
#12
Posted 24 December 2015 - 03:54 PM
pretty simple. Fly guys snag and floss all their fish and pin guys have legit hook ups. Duh.
Jokes aside, tones of guys drift flies be it nymphs, egg flies, emergers you name it I have seen it all. I have also seen fly guys looping pinkies, roe bags, you name it I have seen it all. As long as you are fishing ethically, and legally, have att'er! Enjoy your time on the water, do yo' thang. Sometimes unorthodox fishing yields amazing results.
#13
Posted 25 December 2015 - 12:10 AM
True, I have a book that talks about fishing slinkies with a fly rig... Whatever floats your boat.
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