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[fishfreek]

And Salmon love shrimp, that's what the guy said when I seen him fighting a bruiser on my local trib. He couldn't gain an inch on this fish. The fish ran down stream under the bridge I was standing on , shrimp my a@# . It was snagged using a treble hook, I just made the call and walked home.

[FrequentFlyer]

on huron side, trout and salmon eat crayfish as a big part of their diet, mostly due to lack of baitfish.  on lake o, we have so many baitfish, that crayfish don't make up a large part of their diet, but that doesn't mean they won't hit it

[Fisherman Dave]

Only reason I don't fish out of season bass is because I don't want to pay a fine, otherwise if I am in a trout hole looking for trout and 3-4 lb bass keep smoking my fly (opener) then screw it I'll have some fun, bet you if there's a pile of bass there, there is one or two trout (there was this time). There are so many bass around, no shortage, I have never had trouble finding bass to catch, and they eat all the trout eggs. If it were me personally, if buddy wanted to keep fishing em I wouldn't care, I would laugh my head off if MNR came on their own or someone elses accord though haha.

 

Having bred bass previously and kept them for long periods of time (peacock, legal) I can tell you one thing they are much more ballsy than we give them credit for. I am willing to bet that you pull that sucker in after a short fight, let him go properly, he will be right back on that reed chasing in less than 5 minutes, sometimes instantly. A little sprint won't stop him considering hes already in a marathon, and extremely pissed off and horny at the same time. Just treat properly as we do and move/use something else after a reasonable amount of time lol.

[Fisherman Dave]

I'm not positive on that. While I accept some truth to your point, female bass are incredibly aggressive as well, and with the amount of males around I don't see it as being a very likely thing that as soon as one is swimming around like nuts and disappears for a minute that gobies will just swarm in and eat everything. No real scientific evidence to back myself up here, I just get the feeling if the season for bass was open a bit earlier the population would drop at an acceptable rate which should in turn decrease the amount of trout eggs being eaten at the same time. Just a thought, not condoning out of season fishing, just don't think its anything to pay much attention to unless people are keeping em in big numbers.

[Fisherman Dave]

Males and females both guard the nests. Females stay closer to the site they lay their eggs, males take wider swoops to protect it, and theyre mostly protecting from other bass. Since there is many many males in a single hole protecting, specific spawning sites often get blurred and they generally act aggressive to whatever they see. Which means they will in effect protect other eggs than those they fertilized. When I bred these things the relationship between other males and other females could be distinguished immediately, mind you not that I am saying aquarium breeding is the same as wild breeding.

 

Totally get what you're saying, totally get the logic and point behind it, I'm just not sure I accept it as the correct theory, I just follow it not to get in trouble. I would be a lot more supportive if it were a small lake where we really have to protect the population, but I don't think bass need very much protecting in SW Ontario other than private lakes, truth be told though they are good fighters I get pretty disappointed when I get one on haha, unless I'm at a cottage somewhere and there are monsters I'm fishing for. That for me is something I can get behind strict enforcement, not a massive system that has them competing with (in my opinion) much more prized fish.

 

Not arguing, like this site, I've lurked for years, finally started getting into the swing of things that I can give some sound advice.

[Fisherman Dave]

Another point, despite the water being freezing cold and a nice late trout season for us, how many bass did you already see spawning everywhere? It was nuts, they could care less to wait for the warmer weather. So that was 4th Saturday in April. If you change it to 4th Saturday of may that's another full month of spawning, 5 weeks this year around. I'm sure half of what we saw an opener was spawning behavior and not outright spawning, but I personally would much rather reduce the days that me and my friends catch 20-30 bass each, and hope that has a causal relationship with the amount of trout eggs hatching without bass eating them all. I'm not a doctor, just a fishermans opinion, if you could only pull out 2 or 3 nice bass a day people would probably go almost as nuts about them as trout too, then we have year round of being on our toes hoping for a bite, and sweat like crazy instead of freeze our roe sacks off.

[pfc_ivan]

So to stay on topic, where are all the trout?

[FrequentFlyer]

Only reason I don't fish out of season bass is because I don't want to pay a fine, otherwise if I am in a trout hole looking for trout and 3-4 lb bass keep smoking my fly (opener) then screw it I'll have some fun, bet you if there's a pile of bass there, there is one or two trout (there was this time). There are so many bass around, no shortage, I have never had trouble finding bass to catch, and they eat all the trout eggs. If it were me personally, if buddy wanted to keep fishing em I wouldn't care, I would laugh my head off if MNR came on their own or someone elses accord though haha.

 

Having bred bass previously and kept them for long periods of time (peacock, legal) I can tell you one thing they are much more ballsy than we give them credit for. I am willing to bet that you pull that sucker in after a short fight, let him go properly, he will be right back on that reed chasing in less than 5 minutes, sometimes instantly. A little sprint won't stop him considering hes already in a marathon, and extremely pissed off and horny at the same time. Just treat properly as we do and move/use something else after a reasonable amount of time lol.

 

 

almost certain you would be told to move on or be fined by a CO for that.  if you are consistently catching OOS season fish in a given spot, its time to move on. catching 1 or 2 OOS fish, it happens.

[FrequentFlyer]

So to stay on topic, where are all the trout?

 

been and gone. if you put in some leg work, you'll find some residents though

[pfc_ivan]

been and gone. if you put in some leg work, you'll find some residents though

Was in the West Trib yesterday. Walked downstream for probably 4km. Not a single one spotted... Do you think with the rain over the weekend it might get better?

[FrequentFlyer]

Was in the West Trib yesterday. Walked downstream for probably 4km. Not a single one spotted... Do you think with the rain over the weekend it might get better?

 

spawning run is over now, only trout you'll find now is stragglers and residents

[Flywhywhy]

I want a steelhead

[DILLIGAF?!]

Was in the West Trib yesterday. Walked downstream for probably 4km. Not a single one spotted... Do you think with the rain over the weekend it might get better?

If you're only sight fishing for steelhead, then it would be harder after this rain. most of them has gone back to the lake. If you're just wanting some trout, then there are a lot of resident trout on the rivers. Don't let the water deceive you. They are there. If there are steels left, they would be under logs and overhangs now as oppose to the openers where they could care less if they're exposed. I've been to the river 5x since openers and all i've been catching are resis 'cept for one steel.

[Bow Man]

You really want a prize, go get some brookies.

[PUMP KNOWS]

Had to do a lot of leg work and found a lot last week.  The only problem was hooking into one. 

 

Water was low and crystal clear.

 

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[Flywhywhy]

They look like bass , black tail stands out ! And same way they were schooling in bayfield