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#1 thepassionateangler

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 08:04 PM

So I have been heading out for the past month about 2-3 times a week and for some reason I cannot explain I have not been able to hook into any hens :( Like I have caught about 10-15 chinooks (all males) and 6 browns (all males)....

Like I don't know if this is mother nature being sexist or something but like I really need this roe for the steelhead season :P

Anyways was just wondering how you guys are doing?

 


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#2 TroutHunter

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 08:24 PM

I think Mother Nature heard you were going to sell the roe so she made the females stay away.  :razz: Maybe its just Karma.


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 08:29 PM

I think the further upstream you're fishing, the more likely you are to be catching males. Rarely do you see a female salmon released!

 

Try fishing further downstream.


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#4 DILLIGAF?!

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 08:37 PM

It's a matter of wanting to use roe.
Not needing it. Mother natures way of telling you to use beads from now on.
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#5 GuitarBuildingAngler

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 09:07 PM

It's a matter of wanting to use roe.
Not needing it. Mother natures way of telling you to use beads from now on.

I completely agree. 


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#6 Bryonfromtillsonburg

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 09:37 PM

I completely agree.

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#7 TheTallOutdoorsman

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Posted 27 September 2016 - 06:41 AM

Hey buddy! Try using a natural bead colour (something between red orange and yellow) I find I catch a lot more hens that way, and using pink catches all the males (about 85% of the time)


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Posted 27 September 2016 - 07:50 AM

buy it from fishheads.  i hooked into 3 hens yesterday on fly.

 

want a sustainable fishery, don't strip roe.


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Posted 27 September 2016 - 08:26 AM

I went salmon fishing the other day for the first time. Got a hen in half an hour and then left. Now I am done salmon fishing
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#10 DILLIGAF?!

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Posted 27 September 2016 - 09:41 AM

I went salmon fishing the other day for the first time. Got a hen in half an hour and then left. Now I am done salmon fishing

Pretty much. It's not the salmon though, it's what's behind them....


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Posted 27 September 2016 - 10:14 AM

Nothing mixes with them in my home river. Waiting for bows
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#12 thepassionateangler

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Posted 27 September 2016 - 11:09 PM

So I have decided that I will start using beads as my go to bait from now on (thank god I have thousands of beads :))


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#13 bigugly

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Posted 28 September 2016 - 12:36 AM

I like beads and have caught lots on them but will always have everything I can get my hands on to throw at them.


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#14 TheTallOutdoorsman

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Posted 28 September 2016 - 06:45 AM

Beads are great in certain conditions, I use mostly beads and some flies.

 

There are days when its pitch black outside (from fishing to early or too late) when fish eggs have their advantage!

 

I don't carry much roe with me, but its better to have then not have!


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 09:11 AM

Pitch black, orange or chartreuse glow bead works really good. the rest of the day i only use white/ deep pools, pink blood dot beads works well. the rest for me are flies, from glow bugs to stinger leeches.


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#16 pfc_ivan

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 09:34 PM

Hey guys,

I am reading that some of you underestimate salmon fishing, and would rather wait for rainbows. I have a couple of questions about it:

1. Why is it better/more fun fishing the rainbows?
2. How do you know when rainbows start their run into rivers and creeks? Do you just go out and visit, or would you automatically know they are there after a few rainy & cold days?

Thank you!
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#17 thepassionateangler

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Posted 30 September 2016 - 06:49 PM

To answer your question its pretty simple:

1. When we fish for steelhead(migratory rainbow) we use a finesse technique which consists of long rods, light line and small hooks. Pound for pound steelhead are one of the strongest fighting fish we have in Ontario, even Canada for that matter. So as steelhead anglers we are challenging the extremes which consist of fishing for the biggest fish we can on the tiniest line we can get away with. (I still don't believe any guy fishes 8lbs + steelhead on 1lb test and actually gets them to shore). We also do it because once you get into it, the true addiction of steelheading is something that we will never grow out of, our addiction only gets more out of hand the older we get.

Now that's the reason why we steelhead fish, but when we compare it to salmon fishing its pretty easy to understand why we rather steelhead fish than salmon fish:

The reason why we don't enjoy salmon fishing nearly as much as steelhead fishing is because the salmon season is a poop show. All the clowns come out and since all they want to do is catch a fish with any means necessary to achieve this, they (as in about 80-90%) ultimately resort to snagging because it's the easiest way to catch salmon. It's disgusting, and really isn't a fun thing to watch. So we pretty much try and avoid it. Once the salmon season is over with the crowds go with them and it gives us more room to breath and be surrounded by serious anglers.

2. For the most part the order goes like this: Atlantic salmon come in first in early summer (although there aren't a lot), then it's chinook in mid-late august until about mid-october, in between the chinook the browns come in, around early september to mid to late november (have caught some in mid december though) and then the steelhead come in last in mid to late october and stay all winter till at the latest june. Often a cold october rain will push the steelhead to start coming up. If we don't get a mid-october week of cold and rainy weather, you can expect them to be in the rivers later in the month of october but for the most part mid to late october is when they start coming in.

 

Hope this helps

 

P.S. If anyone wants to prove me wrong about my statement of being able to land an 8lbs + chromer on 1lb line please contact me and show me your ways :P 


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#18 FrequentFlyer

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Posted 30 September 2016 - 07:04 PM

lightest line i've used is 4lb, have managed to land fish on it, its tough, but doable


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Posted 01 October 2016 - 08:55 AM

HittingTheChromes - Thank you sir!
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#20 pfc_ivan

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 12:29 PM

buy it from fishheads.  i hooked into 3 hens yesterday on fly.

 

want a sustainable fishery, don't strip roe.

 

When you get roe from fishheads, do you get the Natural Rainbow Roe, Speckled Trout Roe, Cured Natural Salmon Roe or Natural Rainbow Roe SKEIN? They have four different options, which one is the 'best' for Rainbow Trout?


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