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[PUMP KNOWS]

How many years back was it when you can harvest 2+ steelhead with a sport license?

[FrequentFlyer]

Any half decent steelheader and salmon fisherman knows quite well.

 enlighten us.... there is no way of knowing what comes from a farm fish to what comes from a wild fish

[DILLIGAF?!]

As long as it's allowed and within limits...I'm cool with people keeping roe. I try out different lures and baits for fish. I mostly use flies but nothing wrong with using roe once in a while.

[FrequentFlyer]

im no longer a float fisherman, let alone a roe fisherman, im pretty well 100%  fly fishing on the creeks.  i can see roes value to some people as a use for bait.  but do know its not needed.  seems most people i run into now are using beads.

[FrequentFlyer]

Enjoy Flyer.
But keep the float rod.
Never know.

 

i still have it, haven't used it in 4 years. but its there collecting dust

[chinooky]

There are quite a few intertwined topics in this thread, the main argument being: people that use roe are the reason that numbers are down, with the ultimate goal of increasing numbers of fish to catch.

To me this sounds like blaming one group or another for diminishing returns...its the meat hunters, the roe users, europeans, asians, etc. The truth is that there are too many people period. Humans pollute and destroy fish habitat through farming, mining, sewage discharge, not to mention catching fish.

It's hard to have your cake and eat it too. The govt wants our license fees but yet doesnt do enough to maintain sustainable fishing. If the point is to increase numbers and to maintain fishing (+revenues), habitat needs to be protected and more fish stocked. If we have good numbers, who cares how they are caught.

[fisherman2280]

On a little side note about roe and spawning fish, They open the season right near the end of the Spring steel run and yet the day it opens the rivers are full of people walking down.

 

I live on a river and before the season opens I can spot fish running easy but once it opens it's like they go super stealth.

 

I agree with not harvesting females but I also think another factor is fishermen walking the rivers right after the spawn. 

[Swing4Steel]

Buddy if you think i dont care about the resource youre dead wrong. I spend days transferring steelhead, planting trees and helping do stocking runs among other things. And pretty much the only steelhead i keep now are stockers.
But, I dont think banning roe is the magic ticket to help our runs recover. Way more factors than a few fish being retained. Maybe get out there and pitch in instead of whining on the internet

[Swing4Steel]

It doesnt make my efforts redundant. My efforts cancel out some of the fish i harvest, and probably a few more people's, as i kept 1 stocker last fall.
Heres a couple reasons that I base my opinion on. Not that I feel the need to validite it, but so others can make their own decisions.

1 you need diversified stock of both males and females to further the strain. Bonk all males and then a fewer number of males get to breed, making it easier for the "less genetically successful" males to pass on their genes.

2 these are an introduced fish not native here aand with less focus from MNRF. If people get turned off of steelheading their will be less proponents of steelhead initiatives. Less stocking, less enforcement, etc. There is a dollar value associated with river fishing and is seen in that respect by the ministry. If there is no money being generated by them the mnr wont care. Keep people fishing them.

3 I believe retention of fish is part of fishing. Take out the harvesting of fish and then we are just using animals for our enjoyment and PETA and other animal rights groups will have a field day



Obviously their is impact from retention but I dont think " c&r of ripe loose hens" is the answer. Reduction of limits? Tag system with a finite amount of tags? More c&r zones? Yes i think that would be beneficial. Not alienting anglers