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#1 NoviceFisherman

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:35 PM

If I were to manage to park my car, say on 16 mile creek or bronte creek upstream (north of 5) does anyone actually own the forested or uncultivated areas or am I going to get yelled at for walking around there on the bank.
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#2 Matt Rickles

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 10:34 PM

Keep off !!!!! Out and away !!!!!

Actually. I have no idea....walk in water or use boat for drifting down
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#3 Bowie

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 11:15 PM

In 99.8% of southern Ontario rivers/creeks you cannot just walk across forested land to access it. This is why you see people accessing the water from a bridge. Check out some crown land maps to see just how little crown land  there actually is down here.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 10:35 AM

Ok thanks
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#5 Swing4Steel

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 09:35 PM

The way trespassing works is if it is signed or fenced you cannot access, but if nothing you can access, until you are informed that you are trespassing you must leave
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#6 Matt Rickles

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 10:58 AM

The way trespassing works is if it is signed or fenced you cannot access, but if nothing you can access, until you are informed that you are trespassing you must leave


Ummm.......are you for real?......its people like you that ruin it for everyone...it's your responsibility to find out if the land is private not the landowners job to inform you......
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Posted 25 April 2017 - 11:47 AM

I usually know when I receive the first spray of salt shot in the ass.
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Posted 25 April 2017 - 02:02 PM

Prohibition of entry

3. (1) Entry on premises may be prohibited by notice to that effect and entry is prohibited without any notice on premises,

(a) that is a garden, field or other land that is under cultivation, including a lawn, orchard, vineyard and premises on which trees have been planted and have not attained an average height of more than two metres and woodlots on land used primarily for agricultural purposes; or

(B) that is enclosed in a manner that indicates the occupier’s intention to keep persons off the premises or to keep animals on the premises.  R.S.O. 1990, c. T.21, s. 3 (1).

 

https://www.ontario....s/statute/90t21


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Posted 25 April 2017 - 02:13 PM

Ummm.......are you for real?......its people like you that ruin it for everyone...it's your responsibility to find out if the land is private not the landowners job to inform you......

 

looks to me like he knows what he is talking about, not sure where you are getting your information from....

 

http://ambientlight....a/trespass-act/


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#10 Matt Rickles

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 02:31 PM

Nado...your link is from british columbia...not exactly same in ontario....Stupid law amyway... i could easily walk by a no trespassing sign and say I didn't see it, respectful people with much common sense would do homework and get proper permission to access.
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Posted 25 April 2017 - 02:48 PM

Its pretty much the same

http://ambientlight....o-property-act/

 

You would be left with very few fishing spots and access points if you research every spot and only fish public property. You are fine if you respect fencing and posted signs.


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#12 Matt Rickles

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 02:55 PM

Well i apologize. I was not familiar with the trespassing act. I am not from ontario originally and I should have looked before talking but still I think thats completely ridiculous. If I buy land and catch someone on it with or without signs I would be very upset
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Posted 25 April 2017 - 03:49 PM

It's not a big deal, if you live on hunting or fishing grounds and don't want people trespassing you either put up a fence or post a sign. There is so little public access left we would have very few opportunities to fish if it wasn't this way.

 

In fact there are some parts of the world that have an even better stance on the issue, if you own land on a waterbody you are legally required to allow access. Conversely, here in Ontario there are countless rivers that are completely off limits to the public because they are on private property.


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#14 Bowie

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 07:33 PM

If anyone is reading this from Ontario do some research on Navigable Waters. It seems clear until you get into wading through the river instead of navigating it with a vessel (canoe etc) because some creek/riverbeds are in fact private. You need to be careful if you are unfamiliar with the area. Access from bridges is legal however if you wade on either side it may not be.


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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:45 PM

Yep, if it's not posted then it's fair game.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 06:25 AM

Nado for hunting you must have permission
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Posted 26 April 2017 - 06:31 AM

Matt for the most part property owners are aware if people are fishing their property and sign it well if they dont want people in there. I leave no trace and clean up after others so i think i keep the accessible spots open, not ruin it for everyone...
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Posted 26 April 2017 - 06:37 AM

Prohibition of entry
3. (1) Entry on premises may be prohibited by notice to that effect and entry is prohibited without any notice on premises,

(a) that is a garden, field or other land that is under cultivation, including a lawn, orchard, vineyard and premises on which trees have been planted and have not attained an average height of more than two metres and woodlots on land used primarily for agricultural purposes; or

(B) that is enclosed in a manner that indicates the occupier’s intention to keep persons off the premises or to keep animals on the premises. R.S.O. 1990, c. T.21, s. 3 (1).


https://www.ontario....s/statute/90t21


Ya dont blast through farmer's fields. That is their livelihood. That should be common sense, but thats something lacking these days
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Posted 26 April 2017 - 12:48 PM

I own property in Bancroft on a lake with no public access, I have absolutely no issue with people using it to fish off shore, just respect it. No garbage and it's all good.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 01:52 PM

Camping , bonfire, fishing at Bigs May 24 weekend.
Just clean up when we leave.
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