openfire

Fishing season is just starting down here at Jordan harbour and already im seeing mass waves of orientals. (not trying to be racist) But when i go fishing at my local spots i will see groups of 10+  oriental type people with charcoal BBQ's (which they dump in the water after) cases of beer( that they also toss in the water) and large amounts of garbage ( bags, worm container, food wrapping). Not only do they litter, but they also take every fish they catch. I've heard and have had cases where they catch a catfish or bass and its only 2 inches long and they keep it, or they ask if me and my friends if we catch and release, when we say yes they ask us to put what we catch in the bucket. 95% of them probably don't even have a fishing license. I'm tired of seeing my local spots taken over, over fished then covered in garbage. where is fish and game? or whoever deals with these problems? 

 

This is a topic that rears its ugly head every once in a while... I think that everyone here agrees that litter and irresponsible fishing practices are problems that need to be addressed. However, race is 100% irrelevant.

 

Everyone has now had a chance to have their say, and I'm very proud to see that the overwhelming majority of OFF members are wise enough to reject racial stereotyping.

 

Litter, poaching, irresponsible angling practices and abuse of our resources are all very important issues that should be addressed. In the future, feel free to talk about these issues, but please, let's leave race out of it. 

 

Thanks,

 

OFF Staff

Mind telling me where you're headed? I'd love to stay in contact I was pretty happy about the body on this, apart from the tail being a bit long it went well, but the wing was giving me trouble, I need some better BM, the stuff I have now is garbage, the tips simply don't like each other lol.

 

If you wish to contact ChaseChrome, you can try sending him a PM at his new forum here:

 

madriverflyshop.ca

 

There is to be no discrimination or generalizations.  Report posts if you see it and it will be dealt with. 

 

^^^ This.

 

We have stated this numerous times, and it's listed right there in the forum rules, racist remarks are not tolerated here:

 

 

 

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As Dozer said, please use the report button whenever you see any racist remarks and they will be dealt with immediately!

 

Thanks.

A couple of possible reasons, and this is just speculation on my part with no scientific data to cite that I'm aware of...

Salmon are one time spawners, as such aren't feeding and therefore lack the endurance to make it that far up? Also salmon are larger and would have a more difficult time getting further upstream than their smaller salmonid cousins. Another possible reason being climate... A fall spawn vs spring spawn would have a definite impact on both conditions for the spawning fish themselves and their spawn (eggs/fry) in terms of ideal temps and water conditions.

As for steelies being in with the chinooks, conventional wisdom is that steelhad are feeding on the chinny eggs... no need for them to go any further than where the chinnies are, besides, they have no reason to go as far up (to their preferred spawning grounds) now, when they don't spawn until spring.

I would recommend Jim Butler's book: "Steelhead Float Fishing: Modern Techniques & Methods". (specific to Ontario tribs)

 

Copies may be difficult to find, at least it was for me a few years ago when I bought mine.

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry guys, I've been working all day with the hosting company who will remain unnamed Godaddy to get the forum back online.

What happened was that Godaddy received a copyright complaint from another website, due to one snippet of text that a forum member had copied and pasted into a post back in 2010. (a bait caster factoid)

Without any questions asked, and with no warning or opportunity afforded me to remove the offending content, Godaddy took the site down.

As this is a discussion forum where anyone can register and post any content they wish (and members often post snippets from elsewhere on the net as reference), having a host that will act first without prior warning will be problematic going forward. I will therefore be looking into moving to a new host that offers faster, more reliable hosting, and also a host that will have the courtesy of allowing me to remove any offensive content prior to shutting down the site in the event that any future copyright claims are made.

I apologize for the inconvenience, and thanks for your patience and understanding.

openfire

So after a rain when the water is up, that's the best time to fish at the mouth and 2 days after the rain it's best to fish upstream?
is this correct?

What I'm trying to say is this:

The red dots are salmon, and their movement corresponds with the timeline/hydrometric data on the bottom:

It's a tall graphic, so you may have to scroll to see the bottom.



*** I have added this animation to the OP***

For those of you who like to line the river banks near the mouth of your favourite river...

This is just another tip for the fishermen who are new to salmon fishing, as a follow up to the salmon pier fishing thread found here: http://www.ontariofi...tips-for-noobs/

The seasoned salmon and steelhead anglers already know what I'm about to share...

Have you ever heard the saying "You should have been here yesterday"?

Tip:

Use the real-time hydrometric data found here for your river to nail the runs when they are happening.

I even put a convenient link on the side of the forum because it can be a difficult URL to remember.





Take the run that happened over the weekend at the Ganny...



I think that graphic says it all. There are of course other factors, but IMO this is the most important one. The same generally applies to steelhead in the spring.

So, monitor the hydrometric data, and when you see it starting to spike:

1) The mouth of the river

Get down to the river mouth to catch the action in full swing. At this time, you can generally get them right when they enter the river and head upstream at or near the mouth.

2) Upstream

Chances are, that if you arrive a couple of days later, you'll be hiking up river to find the salmon which will now be scattered in pools upstream... Which is fine, but just a little tougher for new salmon anglers who have not yet mastered river fishing. (which is an entirely different technique) HOWEVER... If you arrive late to the party down by the mouth of the river, and you do feel a little adventurous, start working your way upstream and you will eventually catch up to the salmon! A word of advice here... Now you are getting into river fishing... egg sinkers and treble hooks are a HUGE no no. If you are going to attempt fishing the pools up-stream, learn the art of float fishing. You don't necessarily need a float reel for this, but a long rod (10'.6" and above) will make all the difference. You can ask around on the forum for advice on float fishing as there are many experienced float fishermen here who are willing to share their advice and experience.

Hopes this helps.

Just to clarify... this run of fish would have been the fish that were previously staging at the mouth. (The ones you were nailing with cleos and J13's casting into the lake using the techniques here)

Here is an animation that visually depicts how the salmon runs correspond to the hydrometric data referenced above:



The above visual aid should illustrate the importance of paying close attention to the hydrometric data.

Cheers!

Fair enough.

I did receive a pm from a member here who has partaken in your guiding service and he did vouch for the fact that you delivered on your promise of producing fish; However, there were a few minor details mentioned in the PM that unfortunately prevent me from personally endorsing your service. I will therefore allow you to continue offering your service on OFF (provided that there is no future negative feedback) with the caveat that OFF does not endorse this or any other guiding service that may be offered on this site in the future unless explicitly stated by me or a member of OFF staff.

All the best,
openfire

Something told me to check in this morning. I'm glad that I saw this thread.

First off, my hat goes off to Efka who has done a marvelous job at keeping some semblance of order around here during my absence.

Secondly, to all the members, thank you for your patience.

The format that is currently in place was intended to exist in conjunction with the reports sections, as they existed in the previous version of OFF, as the older members may recall. The reports sections were removed "temporarily" during the last forum upgrade as we were under-taking a massive re-organization of the both the style and functionality of the board. Unfortunately, I was pulled away from OFF before the forum upgrade was completed and all the new features could be fully implemented, including the new gallery, new reports sections and other new and upgraded features.

I think I'm correct in assuming that much of the conflict here recently is related in part to the absence of the private reports sections, where members may freely discuss detailed reports, including locations, as well as an influx of new and in some cases, rude members. This will be rectified soon, as:

1) When I have some free time, my first order of business will be to read through the last few months of posts and -- to put it bluntly -- I will ban the less "mature" members who Efka has not already banned.
2) I'm planning yet another OFF upgrade at some time in the very near future to include all the upgrades mentioned above and more... once I wrap up the project that I'm currently involved in.

Hopefully the above two measures will assist OFF during these "growing pains". I don't have a precise time-frame yet, but it will be "soon".

In the mean time, I am eliminating the ability to "negative rep". I think this causes hostility and serves no real purpose other than to perpetuate ill will among members.

Thanks for your patience, and I appreciate the feedback.

Cheers,

openfire

1. Wilmot Creek
2. Ganaraska River
3. Credit River
4. Bowmanville Creek
5. Oshawa Creek

I'm a GTA guy

Click on a coloured section of the river on the map below to view open season details.

Click on a coloured section of the river on the map below to view open season details.

Click on a coloured section of the river on the map below to view open season details.