4th Saturday...

[420Fisher]

hey, just wanted to see what others think about finding good spots on river to find the fish.....

some say all the trout are as far as they can go up the trib's......
some say they have spawned and are or have returned to the lakes.....
and then u have some say they havent come in yet...

can anyone add to this?
i dont want to catch trout that havent spawned yet,
do you think they have already spawed out yet. and r waiting for water levels to raise then head down stream? or what???

would like to hear what anyone thinks,

 

[despotiko]

hey, just wanted to see what others think about finding good spots on river to find the fish.....

some say all the trout are as far as they can go up the trib's......
some say they have spawned and are or have returned to the lakes.....
and then u have some say they havent come in yet...

can anyone add to this?
i dont want to catch trout that havent spawned yet,
do you think they have already spawed out yet. and r waiting for water levels to raise then head down stream? or what???

would like to hear what anyone thinks,

I dont think anyone is gunna give you exact spots lol. But what i can tell you is it all depends on the trib. Everything youve heard is true, there are fish that have gone as far as possible, there are fish that have spawned out, and there are fish waiting for the next big rain to push them up. But again it all depends where you are fishing. Just pay close attention to weather patterns and water levels. Timing is everything and its not always about finding the fish, they are there, its about going on a day where you know they will be active. Particularly water clarity and barometric pressure play huge roles in this. In the mornings fish the deeper runs and when things slow down fish the deepest pools as close to an obstruction as possible.. Why dont you want to catch trout that haven't spawned yet, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Garfield the cat]

Dude they come and go..... They don't come all at once. Everything should be good til about the first or second week of may. Don't get discouraged when yur out there, there hard to find in some rivers.
If any one wants to learn how to fish??????? read, do research on how an what to look for??????
And watch others on how they fish, and not only what they use, but how they use it. Good luck
I'm tired of misleading advice people get from O F F just cus they don't want others to catch " their " fish cus they own the rivers. Yeah I said it.........
and then u have some say they havent come in yet...

can anyone add to this?
i dont want to catch trout that havent spawned yet,
do you think they have already spawed out yet. and r waiting for water levels to raise then head down stream? or what???

would like to hear what anyone thinks,
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[Garfield the cat]

Despotiko yur a wise man. I think I can learn more from u if you got some time? I wanna learn more about this bar pressure stuff. Lol.

 

[despotiko]

Despotiko yur a wise man. I think I can learn more from u if you got some time? I wanna learn more about this bar pressure stuff. Lol.

Sure man any time. Barometric pressure affects a fishes feeding patterns and moods. High pressure is usually those bright sunny days and low pressure is very overcast, rainy days. The keys to getting the most active fish is when the pressue is either dropping or rising. So during the onset of a cold front or warm front. Fish through virtue of their swim bladders will feel the rise or fall and that will signal them to start feeding becuse they know unsuitable weather is on the way which will make feeding difficult. Now, people think since steelhead dont really feed when spawning that it makes no difference, i find it to be true still. If that big buck didnt slam your black fury on a bright sunny day, go throw that spinner a few hours before a storm and tell me if it dosent get hammered. So the recipe for sucess as i see it is pick a good day (not nessicarily the most comfortable), find the fish and pick the coresponding presentaion for that day. And then there are just those day where everything is perfect but you cant buy a fish, the remedie for those days is a cold beer and some good tunes. 8)

 

[Dave]

Sure man any time. Barometric pressure affects a fishes feeding patterns and moods. High pressure is usually those bright sunny days and low pressure is very overcast, rainy days. The keys to getting the most active fish is when the pressue is either dropping or rising. So during the onset of a cold front or warm front. Fish through virtue of their swim bladders will feel the rise or fall and that will signal them to start feeding becuse they know unsuitable weather is on the way which will make feeding difficult. Now, people think since steelhead dont really feed when spawning that it makes no difference, i find it to be true still. If that big buck didnt slam your black fury on a bright sunny day, go throw that spinner a few hours before a storm and tell me if it dosent get hammered. So the recipe for sucess as i see it is pick a good day (not nessicarily the most comfortable), find the fish and pick the coresponding presentaion for that day. And then there are just those day where everything is perfect but you cant buy a fish, the remedie for those days is a cold beer and some good tunes. 8)

Now I don't know what to think after reading that. I have heard people say and I have read that fish don't feed when the pressure is dropping and rising but that they prefer it when the pressure is even. Where did you find that out despotiko? Or is it personal experience? Man I would really like the answer to this question. It appears to be a tough one to figure out. It makes sense about what you say about they eat before a storm as deer do that. Before a really bad storm I usually see upwards of 25-50 deer all filling their faces in fields around here. So it makes sense that fish would do that also. I would do that also if I was them. But then it also seems that if it was good weather, hence even pressure, I would fill my face as it would be a lot more comfortable for me to do so. Anyone have any inut on this, as it seems to me to be one of the most important factors to sort and figure out.

 

[pop-vlado]

I've read so many things about barometric pressure as well. Everything I read is very inconsistent. Does it have an effect on fish? I'm pretty sure it does. So does the moon cycle. But let's be honest, how many of us are actually going to wait for the barometric pressure to be right before going fishing? You go when it's a nice day and when YOU have the time. All in all, the more time you spend on the water the more fish you'll catch. I could care less about the barometric pressure. :mrgreen: I just go fishing when I got the time.

 

[NADO]

My buddy says:

"When a cold front is passing, the pressure rises, the clouds disappear and the fish run for cover and the deep waters. They also tend not to feed as aggressively.
When a warm front is passing, the pressure drops and the fish start feeding because they know a possible storm system is approaching and they want to eat up before the lightning spooks them and the impending winds which will whip up the water making it more difficult to see baitfish."

 

[float^drifter]

wow u guys make fishin for steelhead very complicated. After all they are just fish if u have the right technique u will catch them if u don't u wont easy as that.

 

[NADO]

water clarity, temperature, air pressure, sun/overcast, moon.....it all has to do with technique

 

[float^drifter]

water clarity, temperature, air pressure, sun/overcast, moon.....it all has to do with technique

w/e works for u bud.

 

[NADO]

w/e works for u bud.

No one is forcing you to learn

 

[colin marshall]

Hi Guys,

I've done some research in to barometric pressure on fish catches over my fishing career and have found the following:

High pressure is classed at 30.50 and rising, clear skies and sunny, the fishing can be patchy and I've found most fish tend to be in deeper water or in water that has structure.
Medium pressure is at 29.70 to 30.40, patchy and cloudy weather, fish not really having it but a good time to test different lures and baits.
Low pressure is at 29.60 and below, cloudy, overcast and rainy, fishing can be slow and the fish tend to still be in deeper water.

On rising pressure and improving weather the fish will be active and be in deeper water or shallow water with some cover.
On stable pressure the fish will be slightly less active so I normally use this time to test different lures and baits in both deep and shallow water.
On falling pressure when the weather is deteriorating from good to bad the fish are most active and will take almost anything that is thrown at them in deep or shallow water with or without structure.

I've found that a barometric pressure between 29.90 and 30.90 and dropping is the most productive period to be out wetting a line and catches can be very good.

Saying that it's very true that you can only go fishing when you get time off be it either weekdays or at the weekend and if your in the right place at the right time with the right bait you'll catch fish.

Colin.

 

[axl]

I've also heard that a east wind makes fishing tough.When on the lake you won't see many fishing.I have no clue why. :unsure:

 

[FrankTheRabbit]

Like what someone mentioned above, you can only catch fish based on your own time. Even if you don't catch anything, you still gain experience on the waters. I've had my share of skunkings, but it's helped me practise casting on a float reel.

 

[LICENSETOPIN]

I agree with float^drifter... ive caught steelies in blown water ive caught them in gin clear water ive caught them in rain/snow ive caught them in fast water and in slow. Im sure it all matters to a certain extent but i think it still all comes down to the fish, after all they are conscious animals.

 

[NADO]

after all they are conscious animals.

U sure about that?

 

[LICENSETOPIN]

yes absoloutly... u dont think fish think for thier own? maybe not in a human way but fish think...

 

[NADO]

they act on instinct, they do not have the ability to process complex thoughts.....which is why paying attention to all of those factors does make a difference.

 

[LICENSETOPIN]

Yeah? Ok. Well what part of a steelheads instinct played part when i caught a credit river tagged fish at rouge river this past fall? The fish was tagged at erindale park by one of my personal friends Mark Polanski(I hope he doesnt mind me using his name in this) as he works for the craa, two weeks later I caught the same fish with the tag across the city up the rouge river at highway 2. Now i dont care what scientifc support you have but i know for a fact that, that fish knew it wasnt in its home river and it must have taken a decent amount of thinking to figure out where rouge was from credit which is quite a ways. But hey what do i know? After all I never pay attention to baro pressures and all that jazz when i fish, like most have said I fish when I have the time and for this season am lucky that ive been able to head out almost 4 days a week and you know what I catch fish everytime im out because I walk alot of river not because I go along a "guideline" Not saying none of those factors matter cause like I already said im sure it does to a certain extent, but hey maybe im just really lucky all the time