Am I fly fishing wrong ?

[BASSMASTER19]

Hi all, hope you all had a nice trout opener :mrgreen:
last year during the fall salmon runs i was always asking around about correct line and rod for salmon on the fly. Everyone told me no lighter than an 8 wt and i was getting overwhelmed with all these terms for flies tipets and backing...in my frustration i tied on a 4lb fluro leader on a 6wt and a ghetto homemade fly and to my surprise i was catching lots of salmon. Now to my question, can i do this for trout ? I know theyre very finnicky but the only reason im bringing this up id because ive caught chrome on my mh baitcast rod with 45lb braid i had set up for fishing in florida. Can i just go 100% homemade and try for summer brooks ?
Thanks all for the help!!

 

[RobH]

Go to your local fly shop and have them steer you in the right direction.

 

[remyboy1]

tails--get your popsd to take you to Fergus for the day two things will happen
1-you will visit rob and the boys at wilsons fly shop--if they don't know the answers and solutions to your questions then they aren't fly fishing related ,..lol
2-you will also fish some great rivers in that area--do it man you wont regret it..rob runs the show there and knows his stuff and is an all around great guy.

 

[xxxSIBxxx]

gotta be careful in fergus though as a lot of that area is barb less only and no live bait whats so ever. Im pretty sure anyways. Good area though

 

[remyboy1]

he is on the fly I believe--ask at wilsons they will direct you --to fishing and what I believe may be the best fish and chips on the planet

 

[ChaseChrome]

A good fly shop will get you set up for a reasonable price, give you a mit full of advice, tips, considerations...provide some casting fundamentals (maybe even a casting lesson)...shops such as Wilsons and their Fergus manager, Rob, or Grindstone where you will often find Bill Spicer at the vice...

There are some here ( myself included) who would be happy to link up on the water with you...


cc

 

[BASSMASTER19]

thanks i think ive got a decent set up for trout a 6wt fly line dt and a couple of unidentified flies just cant figure out what to use and when to use it but i hope to check a local fly shop, thanks again, CT

 

[Madriverfisher]

Ct chase is right hit Wilson's up be it there Toronto or fergus stores and a few of us are always willing to help some one new to the as chase calls it the art of fly fishing

 

[BASSMASTER19]

thanks :mrgreen:

 

[Alfiegee]

Hi all, hope you all had a nice trout opener :mrgreen:
last year during the fall salmon runs i was always asking around about correct line and rod for salmon on the fly. Everyone told me no lighter than an 8 wt and i was getting overwhelmed with all these terms for flies tipets and backing...in my frustration i tied on a 4lb fluro leader on a 6wt and a ghetto homemade fly and to my surprise i was catching lots of salmon. Now to my question, can i do this for trout ? I know theyre very finnicky but the only reason im bringing this up id because ive caught chrome on my mh baitcast rod with 45lb braid i had set up for fishing in florida. Can i just go 100% homemade and try for summer brooks ?
Thanks all for the help!!

Hey CT. A lot of good advice so far.
As a life-long Brookie fisher, they will hit anything right away if biting. I find that if I don't get a bite on my first 3 or 4 casts, it is time to move to the next pool.
You can get Specks on line tied to a branch with a hook and worm. They are aggressive.
As for the upper Grand, it's mostly native Rainbows and Browns, the water is too warm for Brooks. It is a great fly fishing area, I love it. And yes it is single barbless hooks, no live bait and no kill. Some big resident fish tho.

Alfie.

 

[Jacklake]

Hey CT.
Go to Riordan's Sports and ask for Dave C. You may want to phone first and learn his schedule - he is part time. He knows a good deal about flyfishing and can lead you in the right direction. Wilson's is kind of a long way if you live in Ajax.

 

[iJay]

While on this subject, I too want to give fly fishing a shot.

I have floating line and the tippet, how the hell do you fasten them together PROPERLY?!?! At bass pro the guy sold me these eyelet shank looking things. He mad it so simple sounding as he told me to just insert the shank into the floating line and the eyelet tie ur tippet. Sounds simple, when put into practive not so much. The shank kept poking holes in the floating line and would easily rip off.


Is there something that someone would be able to share with me???

 

[remyboy1]

blood knot for leader--fly line and surgeons knot for leader to tippet---you tube it there are 123 videos to do it

 

[Graham Bristow]

Better to use a nail knot for fly line to leader connection and a blood knot or triple surgeons knot for the leader to tippet conections and then an improved clinch knot or other proven knot to tie the fly on. You can also use the braided loop connectors that slide over the end of the fly line so you can do loop to loop conections with the leader and fly lines which I think is better then the steel pin connectors.. I've never been much for the pin connectors that BPS sold you but some guys like them..


To answer the original question you can go with your homemade rig but lighten up the line for the brookies..

I use 3 and 4 weight rods for dry fly and nymphing for trout and 5 and 6 weight rods for streamer fishing for trout.

For steelhead and salmon I use 6 and 7 weight rods with no problems..

4X tippet for trout and smaller flies..

A dedicated fly shop with anglers that actually know how to fly fish will usually give you better advice then you'll get at certain big box stores... I dont know how many guys I've guided and taught both in fly fishing and in musky fishing that have come out with rods and reels and lines in the wrong sizes which they were recomended to buy at "certain" big box stores... Do yourself a favor and go to a reel fly shop. The store called "With A Fly" in Mississauga and Wilsons fly shop will get you started right. Just my opinion..

 

[fishermandan420]

where is With a fly? i have heard about it but never an address, thanks

 

[Jacklake]

While on this subject, I too want to give fly fishing a shot. Is there something that someone would be able to share with me???

For novices to flyfishing, who want to find some info on the 'net, I suggest this sitehttp://www.flyanglersonline.com/begin/101/ for some common explanations.
A blood knot is too bulky because the fly line is too thick. I agree a nail knot is good for attaching the leader to the line, but I prefer to tie a loop in the butt end of the leader and use a double sheet bendhttp://www.animatedknots.com/images/double_sheet_bend.jpg (the leader would have a tied loop and is the blue line; the fly line is the red in this example).

 

[Jacklake]

where is With a fly? i have heard about it but never an address, thanks

This shop is in Mississauga. Angelo is really nice to deal with. He has specialized in products and brands that most other shops don't carry. They have a good collection of fly tiers and story tellers that hang there on Saturday mornings.

 

[ChaseChrome]

Not a big fan of the nail knot line to leader...rather an albright...personal preference really...

 

[BASSMASTER19]

well its been a while, lol sorry thanks for all the great help guys. so what about that fly outing we were talking about ?

 

[Alfiegee]

well its been a while, lol sorry thanks for all the great help guys. so what about that fly outing we were talking about ?

Name the time, date and place. I will attempt to be there. Place should be strictly on a PM basis.

Alfie.