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wlatyn

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the Brampton by-law officer who ticketed all the cars parked on the dirt - apparently "boulevard" - beside the bridge on Creditview Rd. There are no signs indicating parking is forbidden, and not one of the cars was remotely close to the road. The nearby park had its gates barred so parking there was impossible. The owners of the cars were obviously fisherman; some probably in sight while the officer wrote them up.
Seriously...anyone who is given power - however minimal - should be taught discretion
 
Weird, my understanding of parking laws is they require signage. I'm no expert though! I have been dinged a few places though. Port Perry and Guilford come to mind!
 
Lol park gate locked...by-law on hand to ticket mysterious boulevard...nothing planned there at all haha.

Seriously tho that sucks dude.
 
Harsh indeed. I think they anticipated this would happen and know $$$ because they know some people to some people...it's all worth it....I wonder if that happened on the east...
 
how much were the tickets?
I know when we were thinkin about taken our trailer out for this weekend, they told me it would be a $20 ticket, and I know they cannot write another ticket for 24 hours.

Really $20 for parking of a trailer is cheaper than a camp site.

But that does suck they would lock the gates and ticket cars. I can see if they were obstructing traffic or something.
 
Ouch, thats bullshit. Now all those people either pay or book off work to fight it... glad I didn't get ticketed, I parked the same way. With no signs anywhere I believe it wont stand in court.
 
Unless posted like a 1 hour parking sign, bylaws are usually 3 hours parking limit. So if there were no signs posted, did you guys exceed the 3 hour limit?

Also, it could be a nearby property owner complaining to the city about all of the cars parked near his property which prompted the officer to come out and tag all the cars.
 
Steel_ED said:
bylaws are usually 3 hours parking limit.
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That's it right there...3 hour parking limit unless otherwise stated...
Most cities have it; they just decide when they want to enforce it....
 
The question is. Why close the park on a highly anticipated trout opener? Not all the people that fish the area don't live around thee. They travel 20 to 60 minute just to fish. Something smells fishy...there's your pun.
 
The infraction was "Park on Boulevard". Apparently Brampton has the widest boulevards in Ontario. I emailed the bylaw dept., asking for an explanation, but have not received a reply yet. Maybe I'll try to call and yell at someone, whatever good that will do.
Should fight it out of principle, but not worth taking the day off work (been there, done that).
 
What was the bylaw infraction? Usually they must state the provision-paragraph-section-subsection-etc that you are being ticketed.

I looked up Brampton's bylaws and if there no signs posted and you are under the 3 hour limit, than you have a case.

Here is the full document. Go to Page #19, Section: Parking Prohibited In Certain Places, Section 42.

http://www.brampton.ca/en/City-Hall/Bylaws/Traffic%20ByLaws/Traffic_9393TXT.pdf
 
Brampton's Bylaws:

PARKING PROHIBITED IN CERTAIN PLACES
42. Unless specifically permitted by other provisions of this by-law, no person shall park any vehicle on any highway:
(1) on any portion of a sidewalk in a manner that would obstruct the sidewalk;
(2) within three (3) metres (10 feet) of a point on the curb or edge of the roadway opposite any fire hydrant;
(3) in front of any portion of a public or private driveway or laneway;
(4) within an intersection or within nine (9) metres (30 feet) of an intersection;
(5) on any roadway having an overall width of less than six (6) metres (20 feet);
(6) in such a manner as to obstruct traffic;
(7) on any portion of a boulevard;
(a) in such a manner that the vehicle is partly on a boulevard, or on public or private property, and projects over a curb into the traveled portion of the highway;
(8 ) on any highway for a period longer than three (3) hours unless otherwise permitted by authorized signs erected at locations set out in Schedule XXXV of this By-law;
(9) in such a position as will prevent the convenient removal of any other vehicle previously parked or left standing;
(10) on any portion of a crosswalk or pedestrian crossover;
(11) on a highway between the hours of 2:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m.;
(12) where parking is prohibited;
(13) where parking spaces are designated by lines painted on the roadway, except within the area designated as a parking space.
(14) the provisions of section 42 subsection (11) & (12) shall not apply to vehicles which clearly display in a visible manner a accessible parking permit.
 
RiverRuns said:
The infraction was "Park on Boulevard". Apparently Brampton has the widest boulevards in Ontario. I emailed the bylaw dept., asking for an explanation, but have not received a reply yet. Maybe I'll try to call and yell at someone, whatever good that will do.
Should fight it out of principle, but not worth taking the day off work (been there, done that).
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Hey RR, does your ticket clearly states which Bylaw you are being ticketed?

According to the brief posts, it would appear to be Section 42.7(a) and if this is the case and you are not contravening any of the stipulations in this Bylaw, than you have a case to get the ticket thrown out.

However, if you exceeded the 3 hours limit under Section 41.8, than you need to prove that you were not parked longer than the max time limit.

Hope this helps.
 
I would take pictures and contest it it , hey but thats me
No signs no ticket, simple.
Also say you were fishing and nowhere to park, no signs posted saying you can't park.
 
RiverRuns said:
Seriously...anyone who is given power - however minimal - should be taught discretion
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Sorry to hear about the `parking cops` getting out of control.


On a different but `similar`matter:

There are many who have suggested `deputizing` people to handle MNR responsibilities.
Could you only imagine what would happen if that happened ...


Now, if the city donated some of that `Parking Money` to MNR, that would be cool.
 
free reign said:
I would take pictures and contest it it , hey but thats me
No signs no ticket, simple.
Also say you were fishing and nowhere to park, no signs posted saying you can't park.
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A common misconception when people go to trial for minor matters is that if they have a good reason for committing the offence , the judge or justice will toss the matter. This is not the case, you must show that you are not guilty of the offence, or raise reasonable doubt. I have no doubt it's the same for parking tickets. That said, I was under the assumption that signage must be posted for parking matters, but further research shows that just posting at city limits can be adequate, which was news to me. Ah well, they are a piss off, and I have been done in a few times when fishing as well, but what can you do!
 
It was 42.7 (parking on any part of a boulevard)...never know how a court challenge would work out, but I've sat in court awaiting "trial" on another non-criminal offence...I sat all day, and was told my case had to be adjourned. There was no way I was taking another day off work, so I basically had to beg the judge to let me plead guilty and pay the fine. The system knows how to grind a man down.
 
Hey RR, I would try to fight it b/c my understanding of 42.7 is as follows:

(7) on any portion of a boulevard; (a) in such a manner that the vehicle is partly on a boulevard, OR on public OR private property, AND projects over a curb into the traveled portion of the highway;

So if you are on the boulevard or on public or private property AND part of your car is on the highway, than you have broken the bylaw.

The key words here for 42.7 are "in such a manner" and the subsequent the AND so if your car is NOT partly on the highway, than you have been incorrectly ticketed.

In essence, you can park on the boulevard, public or private property unless there are signs as long as you do not block a sidewalk, driveway, or have part of your car on the travelled portion of the highway.
 

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