tangledline
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baitcaster backlash tangle technique helper video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDI5kwR5zjc
hope this helps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDI5kwR5zjc
hope this helps
baitcaster backlash tangle technique helper video
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diggyj
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Good luck Edwin. Just use braided line and you will virtually never get backlash, ie: if you do, comes out very easy with braid. PP is the way to go.
Dirk
Dirk
The rod is in shipment from UPS! Should be receiving it tomorrow! Can't Wait!!
Thanks Dirk, but I'll probably be playing around with some 8lb mono that I have at home until it's close to the season where I'll buy myself some actual braid..I can just tell that if I get it now, at least one time out of the hundreds of times I will be playing with it...I will get a birdsnest that actually will make me cut line..
Thanks Dirk, but I'll probably be playing around with some 8lb mono that I have at home until it's close to the season where I'll buy myself some actual braid..I can just tell that if I get it now, at least one time out of the hundreds of times I will be playing with it...I will get a birdsnest that actually will make me cut line..
Mykester said:
Haha! That's exactly what I thought last year too! Like I know some guys that fish for bass with 50lb braid on spinning gear...I guess it's just another experience for bass fishing..I know that spinning gear will have trouble casting as accurate as the baitcaster..and the baitcaster can take more of a punishment in the weeds...
For the next coming year, I just want to put it into my arsenal :mrgreen:
I plan on throwing spinnerbaits and frogs on this rod. Maybe some other stuff, Haven't decided yet...
Might even take the baitcaster out to try for steelhead this weekend if I do end up going. After what I read, I think I have the gear for that..But I don't know if I have the skills for that yet.
I'm excited, I'm gonna get to play around with my baitcaster while doing homework tomorrow. LOL
diggyj
Rice Lake Master
Mykester said:
The advantages of baitcasters are that they offer longer, smoother casting, better accuracy with the ability to stop a cast at any moment, and they have a better drag systems for larger fish and more precise tuning. Baits also enter the water with far less entry spash I find. Line twist never happens. Fish much heavier cover and structure with a baitcaster.
Baitcasting reels work with the weight of the bait or lure as it pulls on the line and turns the spool to release more line. The heavier the lure, the longer the cast. These are typically preferred by more experienced anglers, especially when using heavier lures and lines designed for bigger fish. They incorporate a drag system designed to adjust the resistance or drag on the spool to control how much resistance is needed to pull the right amount of line off the spool.
The disadvantages are obviously the backlash. If you get a bad one, you spend lots of time undoing it or even cutting the line off and respooling. This means less time in the water and can be expensive if you are cutting braid off. Also if you are not good at casting, the settings you use will eliminate the distance you can cast and the accuracy of your casts.
Dirk
Ok thanks guys! I've only seen one person use a bait caster, and he had some cheap 10$ fishing rod to go with it. He couldn't cast pass 5 feet and I just assumed it was a variation of the spincast reel that I used when I was alot younger.
diggyj
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$10 won't cut it. I don't own top of the line gear but I have 2 baitcasting reel/rod combos.
I have Shimano Citica 200E reels and both are paired with Shimano Crucial rods. Each setup is over $300 to give you a ballpark figure and I would never use a spinning rod unless I am panfishing. These setups are not entry level, noe are the top of the line. Middle of the road and they work great for me. Can easily land a variety of fish species with them. Have landed some brute Bass with them, walleye, pike and musky and the occasional bluegill and rockbass.
Nothing wrong with a good spinning rod. Fishing rods and reels are like everything in life, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
You can buy an expesive SONY or LG TV that is either LCD or PLASMA or you can go to Zellers or Walmart and get a "NO NAME" LCD or PLASMA TV for half the price but the quailty is crap when you look at the picture side by side.
Dirk
I have Shimano Citica 200E reels and both are paired with Shimano Crucial rods. Each setup is over $300 to give you a ballpark figure and I would never use a spinning rod unless I am panfishing. These setups are not entry level, noe are the top of the line. Middle of the road and they work great for me. Can easily land a variety of fish species with them. Have landed some brute Bass with them, walleye, pike and musky and the occasional bluegill and rockbass.
Nothing wrong with a good spinning rod. Fishing rods and reels are like everything in life, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
You can buy an expesive SONY or LG TV that is either LCD or PLASMA or you can go to Zellers or Walmart and get a "NO NAME" LCD or PLASMA TV for half the price but the quailty is crap when you look at the picture side by side.
Dirk
reefrunner
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Baitcast reels are the only way to throw heavy lures, like musky baits. I hate that "twang" sound when someone is chucking a $20 bait on a spinning set up. Sounds like the line is gonna break everytime.
I like baitcasters for trolling. It's so easy to release your line. The rod sits better in the rodholder. A rapala line counter sits nicely on the set-up.
When using briaded line, ensure you have some mono backing to eliminate the low diameter braid digging into the spool.
A good tip for beginers to eliminate backlash when just starting to learn a baitcaster: Put on a heavy lure and cast it out as far as possible. With your hand, pull out an equal amount of line. Place electrical tape around your spool and reel in your line. This will prevent most backlashes; and even if you get one, it won't be very deep and managable to untangle since the entire spool isn't susceptable to the bird's nest.
I've been using a baitcaster for about three seasons now, it took me a couple months to get a good cast, even now I don't consider myself 100% experienced. Keep practicing and hope that it puts you on some nice fish.
I like baitcasters for trolling. It's so easy to release your line. The rod sits better in the rodholder. A rapala line counter sits nicely on the set-up.
When using briaded line, ensure you have some mono backing to eliminate the low diameter braid digging into the spool.
A good tip for beginers to eliminate backlash when just starting to learn a baitcaster: Put on a heavy lure and cast it out as far as possible. With your hand, pull out an equal amount of line. Place electrical tape around your spool and reel in your line. This will prevent most backlashes; and even if you get one, it won't be very deep and managable to untangle since the entire spool isn't susceptable to the bird's nest.
I've been using a baitcaster for about three seasons now, it took me a couple months to get a good cast, even now I don't consider myself 100% experienced. Keep practicing and hope that it puts you on some nice fish.
Finally got my rod in the shipment today. SOoooOo Happy! :mrgreen: They missed the flight exchange in Kentucky for a day..
Already spooled it up to play and MAN I suck! Need lots of time to practice with my thumb. Backlashed a few times..The trick works like a charm :lol:
..It's also a bit weird holding the rod with your left hand too!
Anyways, here's some pictures of the setup: An almost 10 year old Team Daiwa G, and a Falcon Bucoo. I guess they look ok together? I'm gonna spool it up with yellow braid when time comes I guess. It's also my first 1 piece rod..
Already spooled it up to play and MAN I suck! Need lots of time to practice with my thumb. Backlashed a few times..The trick works like a charm :lol:
..It's also a bit weird holding the rod with your left hand too!
Anyways, here's some pictures of the setup: An almost 10 year old Team Daiwa G, and a Falcon Bucoo. I guess they look ok together? I'm gonna spool it up with yellow braid when time comes I guess. It's also my first 1 piece rod..
You will have to buy reels and choose either L or R only. You won't be able to change it after you bought it..
But I don't know why it just seems to be the thing for baitcasting that you hold the rod with the left and reel with the right.
It'll probably take you a few hours to get used to reeling with your right..I believe I am starting to get the hang of it after one day.
But I don't know why it just seems to be the thing for baitcasting that you hold the rod with the left and reel with the right.
It'll probably take you a few hours to get used to reeling with your right..I believe I am starting to get the hang of it after one day.
windsorlad111
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i'm at the tail end of my first ever season seriously fishing, and the line tangles on my reel are killing me. i must have spooled one reel 5 times to try and get it good. (it was 12lb line, so it was bound to be moody)
but even my 6lb reel is tangling up here and there. drives me bonkers.
but even my 6lb reel is tangling up here and there. drives me bonkers.
diggyj
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windsorlad111 said:
Try using a swivel, it will eliminate twists.
Dirk
frozenfire
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windsorlad111 said:
Perhaps you are spooling up your reel the wrong way.
If you do it wrong, line twist is inevitable.
reefrunner
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BPS can spool your line on your reels for you. Never did it, so I don't know if it costs anything.
If using braid, make sure you have a good amount of backing. Mono and flouro, spool with just enough pressure to get it on there nicely...if't 's too much I can see the line digging into spool. I'll have a friend stand about 5 feet away holding the line spool on a pencil in the middle applying even pressure on the spool as I reel it in.
I concur with Dirk, swivels alleviate alot of line twist. But buy quality swivels. Lost a bunch of lures on the BPS brand. I like the P-line and spro.
If using braid, make sure you have a good amount of backing. Mono and flouro, spool with just enough pressure to get it on there nicely...if't 's too much I can see the line digging into spool. I'll have a friend stand about 5 feet away holding the line spool on a pencil in the middle applying even pressure on the spool as I reel it in.
I concur with Dirk, swivels alleviate alot of line twist. But buy quality swivels. Lost a bunch of lures on the BPS brand. I like the P-line and spro.
