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MuskieBait

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March 22

First full scaled mirror

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Netted a legit 40lb (on the scale) for my friend Dave.

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March 30

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Did an overnight in a pop-up hut for Burbot...heater on...slept in a camping chair...rewarded with one lost at the hole and this one landed.

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Got some smelt dinner too.

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April 7

Tried two nights sleeping in the pop-up again fishing for Burbot but they didn't want to play this time. Something was just off. Got some handsome Whitefish though.

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And the sled stuck in late season slush fest...

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April 26

Need no explanation...

Legit double digit on the scale. Been steelheading for a long time but never bother to weight one. Guesstimate was always more than accurate. I called this one 10lbs and it was 10lbs on the scale. Always spot on.

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Double digit on the spinner.

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Got more steelhead pics from a few more days of fishing...but meh...
 
April 28

Some Freshwater Drum...

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This one was legit 10lbs on the scale.

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Oh...and a 16" White Bass...

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May 4

More Freshwater Drum...around 10lbs too.

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May 5

Around 28-29" carp...probably 10lbs too.

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Stalking Bowfin...fat female

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May 8

More 'finage...lost this girl on May 5...got her again 3 days later. She has two sores on the side making her easily recognizeable. I'm showing her good side.

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And if you haven't seen yet...

May 10

http://www.ontariofishingforums.com/forum/topic/24142-northern-snakeheads/

Just a couple hours after the 16hr bus ride...no lunch, no rest...unpacking gear in a neighbourhood steet and changing into swim shorts in the privacy of a rental car...wet wading almost neck deep in a muddy tidal creek...casting and working lures on elbows and knees...not as easy as it looks.

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Hickories

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Americans

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Bluebacks

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wooooooah nice fish, that first carp is one ugly #!@# tho. how did u get your pics soo nice? photo shop or slr camera?
 
A bit of photo know how (even with a 7yo P&S)...and a bit of P'shop photo edit.

That 1st carp is a beauty...mirrors are rare...fully scaled mirror is even rarer...I just got lucky...no skills involved to target it.
 
Carp are tame...they are like a big baby...you can cradle them all you want. They may wriggle...but they mean you no harm...

Not like Bowfins...Bowfins are a handful...and they always have that evil took when you stalk them...like they want to torpedo out of the water to bite you...(they probably don't...but that's how they look)...

Snakeheads are equally mean but I love them....so much...so very much...we are unlucky...Potomac anglers are truly lucky...after fishing for snakeheads, everything else, including pike, muskies, steelhead and salmon, seems lame and tame...maybe with the exception of sturgeon...those are cool fish and they are OK in my book. You just gotta experience it for yourself...snakehead fever...it's a sickness and there's no drug for it except to catch more...watching a float goes down on a steelhead is tame...watching a snakehead play cat-and-mouse with your lure then see that mouth flash wide open and white with mud, bubbles and $hit flying all over, set the hook and have it jump 2 feet in the air over 6" of water...then jump again...and again...acrobatics put steelheads to shame...love to see a steelhead do that. They have really strong jaw...pike jaw spreaders barely able to keep the jaw open...and you need two guys to unhook them if one was deep hooked. They are strong and resilent. You can keep them out of the water for minutes and they are still OK (but we love them and return them to the water ASAP)...not like many other "glamour fish" that can't be out for the water for 30 seconds...lame...

The equivalent of Snakeheads in Ontario is Bowfin...very similar in habitat requirement and behaviour...they can breath air too and you don't have to rush with them. They live in some of the toughest environment that other "glamour fish" cannot tolerate...certainly not a high-maintenance, pampered-honey-momma species...if only Bowfin would chase lures with more intent like a snakehead, it would be perfect...I quench my snakehead sickness by fishing for Bowfins locally...but I can only stalk them for 2 months each year...limited spots, limited time...I love Bowfins so much too!!!

Barracuda and Sharks...watch out...mean a$$ buggers!!! They are pure evil...Satan spawn...
 
hamiltonangler94 said:
Nice fish! Sure hope those snakehead never get prolific up here
Their invasiveness and damage is overhyped. If anything, they might be able to keep the Round Goby population under control.

In the Potomac, their diet is 60-70% fish, with 27% killifish, 5% Bluegills, 5% Pumpkinseed, 5% white perch and 1% largemouth bass. The rest is just misc. fish species.

They have been in to Potomac since 2004...and have little impact on the sport fishery there.

Read up and be educated.

http://fishwild.vt.edu/snakeheads/Facts.html

http://www.fws.gov/northeast/marylandfisheries/reports/National%20Management%20Plan%20for%20the%20Northern%20Snakehead.pdf

When you actually fished for them, you'll see that their purported aggressive in unfounded. They are amazingly wary and tentative, choosing to ambush rather than chase. Any fast moving prey are usually ignored.

That's why I think if they were in the Great Lakes, their diet would consist of predominantly Round Goby. If Freshwater Drum and Lake Whitefish can prey on Round Goby, Snakehead will not have an issue.
 
Maybe so but I can see more harm than good coming from yet another invasive species. I can only see the native predatory fish suffering in the long run
 
hamiltonangler94 said:
Maybe so but I can see more harm than good coming from yet another invasive species. I can only see the native predatory fish suffering in the long run
I'm not saying I would purposely wish they establish here (hm...or maybe I do :twisted: ), but at the same time, they are not the evil the media, the public, and even the scientist portrayed.

Native predators will be impacted since the food chain may be disrupted, but I don't expect it to be impacted severely. In the Potomac, the number of Largemouth Bass greatly outnumbered the Northern Snakehead...even co-exist in the same zones. Where I caught my snakeheads, Largemouth Bass outnumbered snakehead by at least 6:1 as a safe estimate base on the numbers that I can see. Largemouth Bass fishing has not been affected, but strangely even improved since their establishment. I could catch bass until my arm falls off if I wish...but bass are pretty tame and lame compared to the snakeheads.

Northern Snakehead is not a generalist like Largemouth Bass...or even Smallmouth Bass. They have specific habitat requirements. On the Potomac, they are not found "everywhere", but in specific locations and they have seasonal use of various habitats. That makes their impact to any specific area and habitat much reduced.

If you read the report, the growth rate of Potomac's snakehead is slower than the growth rate in their native habitat. Since we're much further north (Washington DC is much milder than Toronto for example), our winter will affect their growth rate even more. They may enter into hibernation in the winter months and that will definitely halt their growth. They will also not spawn 5 times a year like they do in their native habitat since they have a prime spawning period. In the Potomac, they only usually spawn once in the spring.

That's why much of their speculated impact is unfounded when the real data is actually collected and analyzed for the population established in the Potomac.
 
MuskieBait said:
I'm not saying I would purposely wish they establish here (hm...or maybe I do :twisted: ), but at the same time, they are not the evil the media, the public, and even the scientist portrayed.

Native predators will be impacted since the food chain may be disrupted, but I don't expect it to be impacted severely. In the Potomac, the number of Largemouth Bass greatly outnumbered the Northern Snakehead...even co-exist in the same zones. Where I caught my snakeheads, Largemouth Bass outnumbered snakehead by at least 6:1 as a safe estimate base on the numbers that I can see. Largemouth Bass fishing has not been affected, but strangely even improved since their establishment. I could catch bass until my arm falls off if I wish...but bass are pretty tame and lame compared to the snakeheads.

Northern Snakehead is not a generalist like Largemouth Bass...or even Smallmouth Bass. They have specific habitat requirements. On the Potomac, they are not found "everywhere", but in specific locations and they have seasonal use of various habitats. That makes their impact to any specific area and habitat much reduced.

If you read the report, the growth rate of Potomac's snakehead is slower than the growth rate in their native habitat. Since we're much further north (Washington DC is much milder than Toronto for example), our winter will affect their growth rate even more. They may enter into hibernation in the winter months and that will definitely halt their growth. They will also not spawn 5 times a year like they do in their native habitat since they have a prime spawning period. In the Potomac, they only usually spawn once in the spring.

That's why much of their speculated impact is unfounded when the real data is actually collected and analyzed for the population established in the Potomac.
I still hope they never become established in this area. More often than not invasive species do more harm than good. There's a reason why it's not here naturally
 
Love this pictures! Thanks for sharing, definitely keep posting when you have a chance.

I remember reading your report when you went to florida and I loved it so welcome back too!
 
I don't like the 1% largie part. Or "the rest of the species are misc". If they get in the rivers and lakes here, good bye fishing for quality.
 
TheFishWhisperer said:
I don't like the 1% largie part. Or "the rest of the species are misc". If they get in the rivers and lakes here, good bye fishing for quality.
Doom and gloom just the same for Zebra Mussels and Round Goby.

Zebra Mussel was believed to deplete plankton and zooplankton so much that they will affect Salmon and Trout in the Great Lakes by depleting the food base for prey species such as Alewife. You noticed any difference in Lake Ontario? Lately, if you follow the King of the Lake and Toronto Sun derby, the chinooks are getting bigger and bigger. I don't notice a depletion of salmon or trout on the streams either. Yes, it is a fact that Zebra Mussels helps to increase the water clarity of Lake Erie and Bay of Quinte, and that causes a shift in the usage of habitat for some species such as Walleye. Instead of using basin habitat (where anglers used to bottom bounce the channels for Walleye), the fish retreated into weed line habitat (now anglers fish deep weed edges). Were the walleye wiped out because of the change? No. They just shifted their behaviour to adjust to the new conditions. Most fish has a certain degree of adaptability.

We also have Quagga Mussel...two invasive filtering species...come on, we must have zero fish left now! I don't know what everyone was fishing for this opener...must be phantom steelheads...

Round Goby was believed to predate heavily on eggs and YOY fish to the point to killing inshore fishery. What happened to Lake Erie, Bay of Quinte and Lake Simcoe? The Round Goby must not have received the memo. But in fact, Round Goby provided new forage for Smallmouth Bass, Freshwater Drum, Walleye and even Lake Whitefish. I've caught Round Goby in the mouth of streams such as Bronte and Credit, yet, when I micro fish those areas, I still find a healthy minnow, darter and sucker community. I do not notice a change in the salmonid species either.

How about the Ruffe? Or Rudd? They must be everywhere now? What about Tubenose Goby?

The prognosis is often, if not always, worse than real life when it comes to invasive fish species. I've been to Illinois where the Asian carp invasion was ground zero. Yes, there are a lot of carp, but in the immediate area, there were also an abundance (as in swirling masses in the thousands...if not million) of Gizzard Shad (species dependent on the same food source as the Asian Carp), plus at least 10 other species that we caught on hook and line, and many more species that we could see personally that we did not catch. Fish species tend to have better natural check and balance system that Mother Nature imposes. Fish cannot completely deplete an area of food because they cannot survive without food. Habitat is often limited and that places pressure on invasive species.

Invasive plant is a different story...because plants are primary producers...they only need sun, soil and water. And to some extent pollenators. They don't need to depend on anything else. The ecology of plant is often much simplier than ecology of fish.
 
From the report...

Frequency of occurrence (Freq.) of identifiable food items found in gut contents of 219 northern snakeheads.

banded killifish (Fundulus diaphanus) 27%
white perch (Morone americana) 5%
pumpkinseed sunfish (Lepomis gibbosus) 5%
bluegill (L. macrochirus) 5%
goldfish (Carassius auratus) 2%
gizzard shad (Dorosoma petenense) 1%
American eel (Anguilla rostrata) 1%
yellow perch (Perca flavescens) 1%
largemouth bass (Micropterus salmoides) 1%
spottail shiner (Notropis hudsonias) 1%
eastern silvery minnow (Hybognathus regius) <1%
mummichog (F. heteroclitus) <1%
channel catfish (Ictalurus punctatus) <1%
green sunfish (L. cyanellus) <1%
tessellated darter (Etheostoma olmstedi) <1%
frog <1%
crayfish <1%

Which other misc. species are you worried about? Potomac has Walleye and Muskies also...plus Black Crappie, White Crappie, Channel Catfish, Brown Bullhead, Logperch, Golden Redhorse, White Sucker, Quillback...many of the species that we have in Ontario. I don't see any of these species in the stomach content of snakeheads. The only one not found in the study that was found at a very low frequency (hence not sampled in the 219 snakeheads) is Longnose Gar.

You are worried about the 1% Largemouth Bass...but in the Potomac the Largemouth Bass is non-native (also considered invasive but God forbid people start killing all the bass... :rolleyes: ) and they greatly outnumbered snakeheads. The presence of snakehead has little to no effect on the Largemouth Bass population. Bluegill Sunfish and Green Sunfish are also non-native to the Potomac. Their popuation outnumber the native sunfish (Redbreast Sunfish, Pumpkinseed Sunfish, Mud Sunfish, Banded Sunfish and Bluespotted Sunfish). It's good to weed out a few of the non-natives.
 
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