best flies?
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I hear you on that, I'm taking it up as well this year, at the show, I found a stand and told the guy what i was going to be fishing for, and he picked out some, not wanting to make me spend to much, i told him to keep going, i spent just over $50. If i can remember which ones are for bass, I'll post pictures lol.
Joel52
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hmmm... fly fishing is about matching the hatch. It's not as much about colour as it is about pattern and size. The absolute best way to figure things out is walk down to the river's edge, shake the bushes and see what flies out. Or get a small strainer, scoop up some of the dirt at the edge and sift it.
For trout, a good standby is a #16 or 18 Elk Hair Caddis. The Grand is the largest Caddis hatch in North America I think, and the cycle goes on for pretty much the whole summer. Caddis patterns of various sizes and colour will be effective in the Upper Credit and Humber also. Flies are seasonal, so it pays off to know the cycles. You could be fishing topwater with dry flies and all the action is below the surface with nymphs or emerger patterns, and all you'll get is exercise casting. I always have a few beadheads and scuds in my box. Here's a link to a hatch chart:
http://www.grandrivertroutfitters.com/hatchchartwhite.html
The main thing is don't get discouraged. See it as a challenge, and keep trying different things. I do a lot of reading, and I'm still learning all the time.
For bass, pretty much anything that moves and looks like food will work, from colourful poppers to mosquitos. Key there is to find them and be there when they're hungry - then hang on. I've had bass dance all around me on their tail, it's great fun!
For trout, a good standby is a #16 or 18 Elk Hair Caddis. The Grand is the largest Caddis hatch in North America I think, and the cycle goes on for pretty much the whole summer. Caddis patterns of various sizes and colour will be effective in the Upper Credit and Humber also. Flies are seasonal, so it pays off to know the cycles. You could be fishing topwater with dry flies and all the action is below the surface with nymphs or emerger patterns, and all you'll get is exercise casting. I always have a few beadheads and scuds in my box. Here's a link to a hatch chart:
http://www.grandrivertroutfitters.com/hatchchartwhite.html
The main thing is don't get discouraged. See it as a challenge, and keep trying different things. I do a lot of reading, and I'm still learning all the time.
For bass, pretty much anything that moves and looks like food will work, from colourful poppers to mosquitos. Key there is to find them and be there when they're hungry - then hang on. I've had bass dance all around me on their tail, it's great fun!
Fishheads
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Hey I have a good start and its not going to cost you tons, follow this link for good start up collections for bass and trout.
http://www.fishheadscanada.net/categories/Fly-Collections/
I know it's my store but at the end of the day you can pay $2.00+ for one trout fly or you can buy 12 from me for less then $8.00 and I am not even going to get into the price of bass flies.
Mike @ Fishheads
http://www.fishheadscanada.net/categories/Fly-Collections/
I know it's my store but at the end of the day you can pay $2.00+ for one trout fly or you can buy 12 from me for less then $8.00 and I am not even going to get into the price of bass flies.
Mike @ Fishheads
Joel52
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not really...
Joel is giving great advice on flies for trout.
Even at a trout pond where people are fishing woolly buggers, a size 16 nymph twitched gently would normally catch more... Especially in clear water.
I've had 10 pound trout take a size 22 midge...
That's too bad I was going to ask as well hahaha.
Joel52
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hahaha... I was talking about the "pro" part. I'm not a pro at all... truly, I ignored the "fishing daddy" comment in my reply, but if someone learned something from my post a simple thank you will suffice as a response.
Graham Bristow
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Presentation is as important as having the right fly especially with bigger fish. Following the hatch charts is a great idea but knowing how to identify the flies and match the hatch and then how to present them properly is very important.
A few simple patterns like a Hares Ear Nymph, Pheasant Tail Nymph and caddis larva in different sizes could catch you trout and steelhead all year long. Cahills, March Browns, Adams and elk hair caddis in different sizes are good year round choices for dry flies for trout. As Joel mentioned size is important to a fish, color is less important. Also keep in mind there are lots of flies on the hatch charts and not all of them are necessary. Often the hatches overlap, so if there is a cahill hatch going on and you only have a caddis pattern chances are you will still catch fish. It takes experience to learn which ones you need and which ones you can do without. Look for the key or primary hatches and have those flies ready for the best results.
On May 28th, Anglers Pro Shop is running their 3rd anual Fly fishing class for $90 and there is still room available. http://anglerspro.ca/html/lessons.html
A few simple patterns like a Hares Ear Nymph, Pheasant Tail Nymph and caddis larva in different sizes could catch you trout and steelhead all year long. Cahills, March Browns, Adams and elk hair caddis in different sizes are good year round choices for dry flies for trout. As Joel mentioned size is important to a fish, color is less important. Also keep in mind there are lots of flies on the hatch charts and not all of them are necessary. Often the hatches overlap, so if there is a cahill hatch going on and you only have a caddis pattern chances are you will still catch fish. It takes experience to learn which ones you need and which ones you can do without. Look for the key or primary hatches and have those flies ready for the best results.
On May 28th, Anglers Pro Shop is running their 3rd anual Fly fishing class for $90 and there is still room available. http://anglerspro.ca/html/lessons.html
For Bass: big ish Muddler's, Mickey Finn's and Black nosed Dace are good, simple to fish beginner friendly minnow patterns. Here's a great smallmouth website: http://www3.sympatico.ca/ianjames/smallmouth-bass.html
For Pike, you can use the same flies, but bigger is better, like 6", so you might want to find something like these: http://ftp.shaw.ca/clives/pike_flies_gear2.html
Joel52
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Presentation is very important - here's a tip I learned from a guide. I carry a small container of dirt mixed with a bit of dish soap. After tying a fly on, I take a bit of that and rub it on the first 6" or so of line. Seems the oil on your hands will help the line float, and doing this will make it sink faster. Go figger!
truitemouche
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trout= mudler and royal coachman
truitemouche
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I very like the mudler its a very good fly