Best spots for night shore fishing during autumn

[jjkchung]

I plan on going night fishing at simcoe during the fall. Going to be fishing from the shore.

Does anyone have any suggestions for good (specific) spots to fish from? (no further north than barrie or beaverton)


Thanks a lot.

 

[Meppsman]

What would you be fishing for though. Perch and Pike have terrible night vision.

 

[jjkchung]

What would you be fishing for though. Perch and Pike have terrible night vision.

I was thinking large mouth. if i could get a decently lit area, maybe pike as well?

 

[salmotrutta]

What would you be fishing for though. Perch and Pike have terrible night vision.

Perch bite doesn't turn on until night. The big ones start biting at sun down. What gave you the impression that perch have terrible night vision?

 

[salmotrutta]

I plan on going night fishing at simcoe during the fall. Going to be fishing from the shore.

Does anyone have any suggestions for good (specific) spots to fish from? (no further north than barrie or beaverton)


Thanks a lot.

Not too experienced with Simcoe, but when night fishing from shore on big lakes, I recommend finding spots with drop offs within casting range. Cast out as far as you can, a worm will often work wonders for bass and pan fish. Walleye will be moving in closer during the night as well. You may need a glow in the dark bobber which can be home made or purchased. You can try casting spinners and jerkbaits too.

 

[Meppsman]

Perch bite doesn't turn on until night. The big ones start biting at sun down. What gave you the impression that perch have terrible night vision?

Wrong bro :smile: Yellow Perch turn off once the sun goes down unlike walleye. Even though they are closely related. A quick google search might answer it better.

 

[grubman]

Wrong bro :smile: Yellow Perch turn off once the sun goes down unlike walleye. Even though they are closely related. A quick google search might answer it better.

I'd have to agree with you. For years I have fished day and all night in the Trenton area and this is when it was infested with perch. They would always stop biting just as the sun disappears. The rock bass would then continue to bite till about midnight, or sometimes all night. From my experience, the perch do time their bites according to daylight just as mosquitoes do too. At sunrise they start up again taking worms throughout the day.

I personally have never night fished in Simcoe only for smelt, as for other fish I don't think there are too many public spots, active night feeders except rock bass, or maybe the odd pike. I could be totally wrong on this but good luck give it a try. Night fishing is very tranquil; I've always enjoyed it as long as there is something to catch. Years ago in Trenton there were lots of night biters. That has unfortunately all changed now for the worse.

 

[Meppsman]

Night fishing is very tranquil; I've always enjoyed it as long as there is something to catch.

Yeah, definitely for me too. I wish I knew what happened to my fish vision chart. Looks like it came in handy after all.

This week I'm going to be working on new Glow in the Dark Rapalas for chinooks and browns. Hopefully it'll bear fruit.

 

[grubman]

Yeah, definitely for me too. I wish I knew what happened to my fish vision chart. Looks like it came in handy after all.

This week I'm going to be working on new Glow in the Dark Rapalas for chinooks and browns. Hopefully it'll bear fruit.

If you find it can you post it here? Or is that violating copywrite laws? I'd like to see that.

As most nature shows on tv go, when they show nocturnal animals they all have one thing in common, that is large eyes compared to head size. The best example in land animals is the owl, most have eyes that are huge and they can hunt in complete darkness. For fish, the walleye and the rock bass would be the equal to the owl. Catfish don't use their eyes but their barbels and hunt/scavenge by taste. That's the benefit of night fishing, you won't lose all your worms to perch. Not too many nocturnal feeders in Ontario, all you have to do is just look at the eye to head size ratio and that will generally tell you what time of day they will feed, generally. There's always the odd hungry fish that has no choice but to hunt at night b/c they were not successful during the day.

Fish also have the advantage with their lateral line which senses pressure waves. They use it to locate the general area of prey but then fall back to eyesight to hit it. A worm in the water won't create enough pressure waves for predatory fish to find in complete darkness, large minnows will.

Knowing your prey is suppose to make you a better hunter/angler. Sorry to go on so long. :grin:

Good luck with the sight night feeding salmon.

 

[Meppsman]

If you find it can you post it here? Or is that violating copywrite laws? I'd like to see that.

As most nature shows on tv go, when they show nocturnal animals they all have one thing in common, that is large eyes compared to head size. The best example in land animals is the owl, most have eyes that huge and they hunt in complete darkness. For fish the walleye and the rock bass would be the equal to the owl. Catfish don't use their eyes but their barbels and hunt/scavenge by taste. That's the benifit of night fishing, you won't lose all your worms to perch. Not too many nocturnal feeders in Ontario, all you have to do is just look at the eye to head size ratio and that will tell you what time of day they will feed.

Good luck with the sight night feeding salmon.

Thanks Your right about the catfish. I wish I knew which one of my books I saw the chart in. There are six books I have to go through

 

[salmotrutta]

Not in my experience!

I have only specifically targeted perch on 2 lakes. Sometimes I get 0 bites during the day, or just dinky ones. I have fished for them literally until 2am, because as soon as the sun sets they start biting like crazy. Especially the big ones.

I'm sure some anglers have experienced what I have too.

Walleye will bite all day, too, in certain lakes, but the general rule is that they bite in low light conditions.

"A quick google search might answer it better"

Did you use Google to find a definitive answer? If so, source please?

 

[grubman]

Not in my experience!

I have only specifically targeted perch on 2 lakes. Sometimes I get 0 bites during the day, or just dinky ones. I have fished for them literally until 2am, because as soon as the sun sets they start biting like crazy. Especially the big ones.

I'm sure some anglers have experienced what I have too.

Walleye will bite all day, too, in certain lakes, but the general rule is that they bite in low light conditions.

"A quick google search might answer it better"

Did you use Google to find a definitive answer? If so, source please?

http://books.google.ca/books?id=y_-Ae_vprpkC&pg=PA114&lpg=PA114&dq=yellow+perch+night+vision&source=bl&ots=HY0qzMO4Dm&sig=IFhgfRziN78txUpX4omlhkAup8I&hl=en&ei=NiqNTqWcBYPw0gH-0dAW&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=yellow%20perch%20night%20vision&f=false

Try that one. I just googled "yellow perch night vision". My own experience is my other source. As I had stated, "it was infested with perch. They would always stop biting just as the sun disappears."

I am familiar with walleye and their repulsion to sunlight. What bait were you using for perch? I think the dissagreement was about perch specifically biting at night, complete darkness.

 

[Meppsman]

Of course, not saying Perch won't bite at all during the night. One of the common experiences on Lake Simcoe every winter is that the perch will completely shut down overnight. It's possible that they are also programmed to feed mostly during the day due to their not so good night vision. One of the pages in my walleye book even talk about how Walleye feed on Yellow Perch when the sun goes down due to the major advantage the walleye hold against the perch. I might even go as far as saying Yellow Perch might be the reason Lake Simcoe happens to hold some really nice walleye.

 

[grubman]

Of course, not saying Perch won't bite at all during the night. One of the common experiences on Lake Simcoe every winter is that the perch will completely shut down overnight. It's possible that they are also programmed to feed mostly during the day due to their not so good night vision. One of the pages in my walleye book even talk about how Walleye feed on Yellow Perch when the sun goes down due to the major advantage the walleye hold against the perch. I might even go as far as saying Yellow Perch might be the reason Lake Simcoe happens to hold some really nice walleye.

Simcoe for walleye? I only got pumkinseed and perch outta there.....lol.

Yeah, perch are dumb but not so dumb to get eaten. I never caught one at night.

 

[jjkchung]

sorry guys, but does anyone know of any good spots specifically along simcoe? (no further north than barrie or beaverton)
thanks again.

 

[salmotrutta]

http://books.google.ca/books?id=y_-Ae_vprpkC&pg=PA114&lpg=PA114&dq=yellow+perch+night+vision&source=bl&ots=HY0qzMO4Dm&sig=IFhgfRziN78txUpX4omlhkAup8I&hl=en&ei=NiqNTqWcBYPw0gH-0dAW&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=yellow%20perch%20night%20vision&f=false

Try that one. I just googled "yellow perch night vision". My own experience is my other source. As I had stated, "it was infested with perch. They would always stop biting just as the sun disappears."

I am familiar with walleye and their repulsion to sunlight. What bait were you using for perch? I think the dissagreement was about perch specifically biting at night, complete darkness.

I was using worms.

Yes, perch can see at night, they spawn at night.

It seems what I am experiencing with perch fishing at my 2 "perch lakes" is unusual because in these lakes, they do not have any predators. Makes sense to me that in lakes with walleye, pike or bass, they would disperse during the night. Also, I did a lot of perch fishing during the Spring, when they were spawning.

Funny though, because I always associated perch with night fishing. On these 2 small lakes, come sundown you can fish for them all night, whereas during the day I only catch little dinky ones in between the other panfish.

Anyhow, to the original poster, you can ignore whatever I said about perch feeding primarily at night, I guess on most lakes they would be on the run from piscivorous predators.

 

[salmotrutta]

Not too many nocturnal feeders in Ontario, all you have to do is just look at the eye to head size ratio and that will generally tell you what time of day they will feed, generally. There's always the odd hungry fish that has no choice but to hunt at night b/c they were not successful during the day.

I disagree. Many species of fish in Ontario are excellent to fish for at night. Brook trout, brown trout, steelhead, small and largemouth bass and walleye, to name a few, offer phenomenal fishing in complete darkness.

A worm in the water won't create enough pressure waves for predatory fish to find in complete darkness, large minnows will.

Worms are one of my top producers under darkness. The aforementioned list of prized Ontario game fish are apt to swallow a worm at night. Worms come out at night.

Sorry to go on so long. :grin:

That's ok.

 

[grubman]

This has me thinking I should be using a perch pattern crank bait or plastic for walleye at night, I never tried that one. You guys really make me think what I have/have not been doing right to catch walleyes. Now my brain hurts........lol.