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Dugger

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Been fishing and living on Chippawa Creek 20 years and this year has been THE worse for disrespectful boaters and jet skies.

Where to begin? I have a few close calls this summer and last night took the cake. I watched as an 18 foot Sea Doo "speed boat" approached me at full speed, zigging and zagging across the shallow, dead tree-limbed infested creek. It narrowly missed, narrowly, a family of 6 mallards I look out for. When he came with 6 feet of me, 6 FEET!!!!!!!!!!! He slowed down which pushed a huge wave of water at me. I stood up, dropped my gear and yelled "What the *%$# are you doing????" as the water hit me, slamming me against a bridge again and again, filling the boat with water. I yelled at the top of my lungs, furious! Two guys on shore joined in as did a guy in a pontoon boat, he slowed down. I was FURIOUS!!!!! I limped back home, called the Niagara Regional Marine Unit to ask about speed limits and such. I was almost killed it was horrible. I put my back out trying to save my boat and motor.

I have had two similar run-ins with this clown.

I watched last month as some moron ripped thru a family of flightless geese, killing one and sending the others into shock. I called the cops. I have had incidents where I am on the water talking to people in a canoe 15 feet away and have had 16 foot powerboats weave thru us at full speed.

Jet Skiers never slow down and the river is narrow. Never. People fly by my dock shaking every rivet and scratching the boat. They always fly past me, right over where I am casting and wreck everything. DISGUSTING!!!!!!!

At least in cottage country people have a clue and slow down and show some consideration. It takes 10 seconds to slow down, wave, and get on with it.

I have contacted the Department of Transportation who oversee Canada's waterways and they said rivers under 100m in width have no special rules people have to conform to ie speed limits etc. (you'd think such waterways would be a priority). The city or municipality that the body of water is within has to contact them to request a study to see if signage etc is permitted to be erected on bridges. ALL I WANT IS A SLOW NO WAKE SIGN(S) AND POSSIBLE SPEED LIMITS IN URBAN AREAS WHERE CANOES, KAYAKS ETC ARE USING THE WATER.

The problem too is that the City of Welland banned powerboats, jet skies on the Welland Recreational Canal years ago and that pushed every yahoo onto the river.

This river averages 6 feet in depth and is getting shallower yearly. It s no place to race, jet ski or pull your kids around in a tube. It is so loaded with limbs stuck int the mud that protrude a mere inch above the surface. Someone is going to be disembowled.

I have about had it. A little respect and consideration, heck, some simple boating etiquitte, would go a long long way in allowing all of us to enjoy the water! When I am enjoying a well deserved peaceful evening on the water I do not need to be worrying about whether tonight my equipment will be destroyed or, I suffer some serious injury enjoying my passion.

.... I just needed to vent
 
Dugger,


I am certainly GLAD that you are all right ( as in .. not seriously injured)

I am definately SAD to hear that this type of occurance seems to be "Happening" unfortunately - frequently!


Many people have NO RESPECT or COMMON SENSE whatsoever.

And when it ENDANGERS other people's lives ... totally unacceptable.



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When good (Safer) bodies of water are taken away (Welland) ... the yahoo's now go to the next choice and invade the Calm and more dangerous waters such as your home river/creek.

I had always assumed that every waterway from a puddle ot the great lakes had some kind of "Basic" regulations and standards of conduct.


WOW, totally blown away to hear that they seems to ignore what i would consider are the even MORE IMPORTANT waters to be referenced.





I'll tell you .... on any given day, I am one of those people who DETESTS GOVT sticking their nose in peoples business. Cant STAND OVER REGULATION of anything.

However, this is one of those PERFECT EXCEPTIONS were I believe there should be ABSOLUTE REGUALTIONS .... with no tolerance, loop holes or leyway.



* There has too be some "Juristiction" that would cover these incidences (Even if the Water Regs dont apply)

- Property Damage

- Safety negligence

- Harrassment


???



This irresponsible boater needs to be stopped.

Dont they all!
 
Sorry to hear that!! Glad you're 'ok'. Due to uncertain water depths (as you said, lowering!) these people don't realize they could bottom out in certain areas... without have any markers/warning signs I'm not sure why they would want to boat/ski there anyways. Unfortunately (like everything else), something terrible will probably have to happen in order for them to enforce some needed laws. I mean, it would make too much sense and be proactive and put something in place now as a preventative, right?! Ugh.

When I lived N (Lake Couchiching, Severn), I found this sort of thing happened pretty often... the lock systems channels were the worst (and there is wake and speed limit signs)!! Now living SW (Saugeen River, Lake Rosalind), it doesn't seem the waters are as crowded and everyone seems to respect each other and use -common sense- (thus far).

It boils down to: respect & common sense... *sigh*
 
If I remember correctly from the boating exam last year, when you come close to non-powered boats you HAVE TO slow down
 
thank you for your concern and comments my friends.... I am working on a presentation for council to consider

I still can't believe what happened last night
 
Dugger:

That's the PITS!!

This is some info from the Boater Exam for A Boater Operaters (Competency) Card..

It's "Governed" by "Transport Canada" which is where everyone must right the Final Exam. There is a Lot of Info on their www Site.

The attached is part of the Study material for the Exam.

Note that on there it also says "Operating a Vessel in a dangerous manner is not only unsafe, it is illegal! Section 249(1)b of The Criminal Code Of Canada says: "Everyone.......etc.

It then goes on to say...."Everyone who committs an offence under this section may be sentenced to: Etc .... (As Written thereon)

Hope it's of some value. If I may be of ANY Assistance DO NOT Hesitate to call on me!

Rick
 
Dugger get a video camera one that you can download and email the moving violations to the OPP. They (OPP) can't ignore that and will have to trace the boat licence to the owner and knock on their door with a ticket. Careless/wreckless operation of a motor vehicle (boat) will be applied to their driver's licence with points deduction. I have'nt seen licence # on jet skis tho, maybe it's there and I did'nt notice. You know the line from the movie Twins, "Money talks, BS walks" if the OPP can smell money they'll probably be there. Personally I like Fantino when he was Toronto's Chief of Police, now he's Chief of the OPP. He seems like the kind of guy that would listen to your concerns especially when lives are in danger.

I had a similar ignorant boater incident on Rice. A large 27 foot cabin cruiser came between me at full throttle and another boat 30 ft from me while we were both drifting. I did'nt expect it to do that and did'nt have time to get my camera out, digital cameras are slower then the old film cameras.

It's only a matter of time before someone gets hurt or killed. Glad you are ok and did'nt confront some of these idiots. Pictures are worth a 1000 words or $1000 fine and video of violations are "priceless" undisputable in court.

Keep watching Tech Source for spy camera deals. Here is a link.

http://www.techsourcecanada.ca/store/flyer.html

Take care.
 
Ahhhhh yes, the Recreational Boaters............................

I come across these people all the time. What a better way to ruin a nice, small, peacefull inland lake than to bring a jacked up seadoo and rip around all night long. 3 weeks ago I was sitting on my buddies dock, drinking a beer and enjoying the peaceful silence after a nice evening of fishing. Only for it to be ruined by the WHAAAAAAAAA WHAAAAAAAA WHAAAAAA of one of those extremely high powered sea doos. Im sure I would feel different if a friend of mine owned one but from this side of the fence they are just plain annoying!

As for the disrespectful boaters the worst experiences I have is at the mouth of the Maitland in Goderich. Standing on the rocks it can make for some quite dangerous fishing. Every year on bass opener at least one person slips and falls in the water which usually makes for a good laugh, I for one have been the victim on more than one occasion. But when the big downrigging boats fly past with absolutely no care for the anglers shore fishing it just pisses me off. Their huge wakes come crashing into the rocks making the surface slippery and increases the danger.

Its not like they can plead ignorance either. Im sure these guys have made the trip through that mouth countless times and watched their wake splash anglers on shore. They just simply dont care!
 
glad youre ok ive seen boaters with no respect at all i remember seeing a couple of kids about 10 years old on a boat and watching them almost tip over when someone just sped past them in a speedboat all of youre ideas should be taken into consideration
 
FishHawk thanks so much my friend for that info and kind offer! awesome! I'm going to read every flamin' word and see how I can use it.

Grubman, I am doing that, great idea! Seriously, that's such a good idea, sad it has to come to that but I'm done like dinner, eh.... I think that's a great idea, maybe the presence of the camera will slow em down

Nado, you nailed it... THEY DON'T CARE!!!! I found something online from Ontario asking boaters to simply turn around and see the havoc their wakes can create ie. shoreline erosion, ruining shore anglers' days, effects on shoreline ecosystems... yes, it actually makes you so FRIGGIN ANGRY THAT NO ONE HAS AN OUNCE OF CONSIDERATION ANYMORE FOR ANYONE ELSE.... how selfish!


thanks to everyone again!
 
I just found this,

Contact Julian
Hill Office:
House of Commons
733 Confederation Building
Ottawa, ON
K1A 0A6
Tel: (613) 996 - 4971
Fax: (613) 996 - 4973
Email: [email protected]

Constituency office:
9401 Jane St.
Unit 115
Vaughan ON
Tel: (905) 303-5000
Fax: (905) 303 - 5002
L6A 4H7
Email: [email protected]

As far as I know he's still Chief of OPP with no aspirations of politics. I don't think he'd be able to tolerate the amount of corruption....lol.
 

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