First Time Steelheading (A Noob's guide on what not to do)

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Since I can't find the "Reports" section I wont post any trib names/locations.

I arrived at an Eastern Trib at about 1:00pm on Saturday afternoon to work in some fishing while visiting the GF's family. We had originally planned on going for pike at a marina but decided to go for steel instead once we saw the crowds drifting away at the river mouth. It was a beautiful day, the sun was out and there were only a few passing clouds in the sky. Although the river was blown, chocolate milk, however you steelheaders like to put it, there was no doubt that there were some fish to be had. The bows were rising, popping up at the surface, and there were even one or two jumpers.

My buddy and I were fishing the western bank and had a lot of room to cast. We were both using small spinners on spinning gear. I had on a size 2 colorado blade I had painted chartreuse and hot pink to imitate a drifting egg sack; #6 single hook. After a while without any hits, I threw on a plastic 2.5" charteruse grub so I could roll the spinner a little slower. Second cast, fish on! I was pretty pumped...but also a little worried for my 6'6" M rod, 6lb test line, and 2500F reel. After a minute or two of fighting the fish someone who knew the area pointed me to some mud flats where I could land it.

Unfortunately, after a fight that lasted much too long for comfort, it was obvious that I had accidentally snagged the fish in the tail. It was a beautiful fish, river colours, probably 10-11 lbs. The hook was popped out within 3 seconds of the fish leaving the water, and when I placed it back in it darted away without any apparent signs of trauma. We didn't fish for much longer and both ended up going 0/0 for the day.

We returned the next day at about 6:30 am to see if we would have better luck. Unfortunately, although my buddy caught sight of a huge tailfin, I didn't see any signs of the steelies this time around. We packed it in at about 9:00am, and we both ended up going 0/0 for the weekend.

I wasn't expecting to catch anything but was hoping to have seen some other folks get some fish on. Unfortunately I didn't see anyone get so much as a bite.

All in all though I was glad I decided to go. There were some very friendly people, and it was cool to observe the drifters doing their thing.
 
Interesting. It sounds like there were fish where you were, but they just couldn't see anything.
 
There were definitely fish the first day and probably the second too...either they couldn't see anything or didn't like what they saw but no one was getting any action.
 
at least you SAW fish. When i went out west last week, all i got was dark, green water ...and suckers lol.

I would say try beads or roe (or both) ...but since the drifters were not catching anything either...i guess thats not much of a suggestion.

As i too am fairly new (also using spinning reel, but a UL 9'6 steelhead rod) I can give you the advice i was given

Get braided line (I use green, 15lb test power pro)
Use flurocarbon leaders ( i used 5.6lbs and found that it would hold the fat suckers good, altough they dont fight NEALRY as good as steelies, still it was a decent battle) If water is crystal clear, u can go down to a 3.5 or 4 lb leader....but with a short rod like yours, id probably stick to using 5.6lbs as the minimum.

If you are going to toss sippners, try mepps #4 in silver, blue or black and yellow colors. I also managed to land a few nice steelies on little cleos (small ones, 1/4oz or a bit bigger at 1/3oz) refer to pic below

OH and if your using roe, or beads...SMALL HOOKS! (size 12 works for me)

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Thanks for all the feedback guys, great tips and comments.

Thats a good visual aid there fishing89, I'll try and throw some of those colours on my next batch of spoons and pick up some larger beads.

I'm definitely pumped to get at it again and try out some new techniques, especially if I can make it out when the water is clearer and the tribs open up all the way.
 
One more thing: be careful with treble hooks when the fish are stacked. Snagged fish happen every now and then, but avoiding certain things can help prevent that situation. To be honest, if the water has almost no visibility, the hardware bite pretty much disappears as well.
 
people think that because you use smaller hooks there is a greater chance you will miss hook ups. this is completely untrue. Be confident using really small hooks. they work wonders. Just always make sure your hooks are SHARP.
 
Rainbow said:
One more thing: be careful with treble hooks when the fish are stacked. Snagged fish happen every now and then, but avoiding certain things can help prevent that situation. To be honest, if the water has almost no visibility, the hardware bite pretty much disappears as well.
Thx for the pointer man...I think you're right I doubt the fish could see much in that water.
 
goodentight said:
people think that because you use smaller hooks there is a greater chance you will miss hook ups. this is completely untrue. Be confident using really small hooks. they work wonders. Just always make sure your hooks are SHARP.
yah that's a good point. my #6 singles are small for what I usually use but might be a bit clunky for trout. What size do you guys use on hardware v. beads&roe?
 
yeah i used to be like you and use #6 for everything, and would always wonder why all the "pros" were catching and i wasnt in the SAME pool.

in regards to hooks, smaller is better for trout. Im cpmfortable with a high quality #12 size hook. Gamakatsu ( i think tjats what they are called ) are really sharp and strong hooks. I use a red one, not from that brand, only because it loooks cooler lol. But any colour is fine. I would think however silver is too obvious? i dont know, like i said im still new as well. But photos always help :) Here is the brand of flurocarbon leader i use and the hook and bead set up. With size reference to a george the 6th penny ( yes i collect coins haha, but thats for a differrnt forum )

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One thing I can add as a noob is to definitely buy good quality hooks, especially if you're going small, I was using size 12 or 10 mustad octopus beak and a strong steelhead straightened my hook out, now I use size 8 owner brand hooks.
 
Rainbow said:
One more thing: be careful with treble hooks when the fish are stacked. Snagged fish happen every now and then, but avoiding certain things can help prevent that situation. To be honest, if the water has almost no visibility, the hardware bite pretty much disappears as well.
I broke my hardware virginity on a chocolate milk trib last thursday. Hit a nice big hen on a mepps aglia with a bright chartreuse blade. I'm no expert on hardware steelheading by any means but I allways had the mindset that in blown conditions something with vibration is your best bet.
 
NADO said:
I broke my hardware virginity on a chocolate milk trib last thursday. Hit a nice big hen on a mepps aglia with a bright chartreuse blade. I'm no expert on hardware steelheading by any means but I allways had the mindset that in blown conditions something with vibration is your best bet.
+1....not an expert on hardware either but clear water...beads beads beads and more beads...murky water...anything that vibrates or moves (hotntots n any cranks). I got 1 hen on a CC big 'O' firetiger on chocolate water.
 
rich_ace_G said:
+1....not an expert on hardware either but clear water...beads beads beads and more beads...murky water...anything that vibrates or moves (hotntots n any cranks). I got 1 hen on a CC big 'O' firetiger on chocolate water.
NADO said:
I broke my hardware virginity on a chocolate milk trib last thursday. Hit a nice big hen on a mepps aglia with a bright chartreuse blade. I'm no expert on hardware steelheading by any means but I allways had the mindset that in blown conditions something with vibration is your best bet.
Yah that's what I was thinking too, good vibration, bringht pink/chart blade...oh well. What size hooks do you guys use on spinners? Do you think the #6 single is too big for spinners as well as the bead rig?


Knuguy said:
F89,
I'm curious about those spoons---Cleos etc. Did they come with single hooks or did you replace the trebles? If so, with what, and how?
Thx
Can't speak for his spoons but most come with trebs and you have to replace them with singles. If you get a pair of split ring pliers it is easy to swap them...might want to get some split rings too in case you want to match the new hook you're putting on.
 

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