Forks of the credit

[myspacedave]

Hey all,

Just wondering what people's opinions are regarding float fishing in forks of the credit provincial park. I've never been there ever, and am relatively new to trout fishing, so any advice will be helpful. I use a spinning reel with 6lb mono on various rods, usually drifting roe or a pink work a foot-2ft deep around cover and such. Will forks and north of the 401 type trout fishing be different? All I'm reading about are flies on here.

 

[Aqua]

Read the regs. please.... Some areas are strictly artificial bait only, single barbless hooks only...

 

[fishermandan420]

That area is single barbless hook,artificial bait, and c&r only

 

[Kit]

Good luck float fishing there... Trout spook very easy and when they see a massive splash from a float.. And no live bait at all is allowed up there. Surely not a place for a noobie to fish trout. Can be a frustrating day.

 

[Shawarma]

I can't see you enjoying float fishing there. Waters aren't ideal for that style of fishing. There are much better areas for it when waters open up this week.

 

[ChromeAddict]

Not really a good spot for float fishing. But if you find a deeper current seam, you can catch them floating a fly. I have caught a couple that way. I'll send a long leader and strike indicator designed for fly fishing.

 

[Shmogley]

it can be done. its not the best approach but you will get some fish for sure

i assume youre going to try it anyways, regardless of what people suggest here

as mentioned several times stick to artificial only and single barbless hook. and most importantly catch and release(keep in the water as much as possible too)

i would use the smaller sized floats (2.5g max) or indicators. with about a foot of line to some shots then a foot of leader to a nymph of some sort or a yarn worm.
just make sure to cast well ahead of where you think the fish are to avoid the spook on splash

for the deeper runs just adjust your float up a foot or so. if its really clear extend the leader a bit.

good luck

like kit said its not very newbie friendly. you will have no problem catching smaller fish but the big ones wont be fooled so easily.

 

[Trevor Kerr]

Hey guys I have a question for you. I was out on Forks of The Credit Road earlier today parked on the gravel shoulder right before Dominion Road. There were other cars parked there so I thought nothing of it. But when I came back a little while later there was a ticket on my windshield. It's for $125 and says "Stop where prohibited". Has anyone else experienced this and do you know if I have any chance to fight this ticket?

 

[Biser]

Probably you parked just before Dominion Rd and first hydro pole. There is "No Stop" zone there. I am not sure why.

 

[Joel52]

The locals up there really dislike sharing that section of river, and have for years lobbied to restrict access. There are even sections of river that are signed as private property. A few years ago I asked the ministry to remove the signs (all navigable waterways in Ontario are public) however I was told the banks and riverbed are privately owned so the signs stayed and trespassing laws are indeed enforced. Know where you are, respect the rules and regs and always ask permission to access certain areas. At one time TU had an agreement with local farmers for certain areas, but I haven't been up there for a couple of years now so not sure if that's still valid. The COs do patrol up there occasionally so make sure you're legal. You're better off taking your float and bag of roe below the Old Baseline Road, and leave the waters north of there to fly rods. Also, it's a no kill zone so all catch and release. Ouch to the ticket - that's an expensive outing!

 

[rich_ace_G]

If you haven't came across a CO while fishing. This might be your chance. I've only been there twice and came across both times. I was just scouting the area and no gear in hand. It is a CnR area and ideal for fly fishing.

 

[TurboTurtle]

The locals up there really dislike sharing that section of river, and have for years lobbied to restrict access. There are even sections of river that are signed as private property. A few years ago I asked the ministry to remove the signs (all navigable waterways in Ontario are public) however I was told the banks and riverbed are privately owned so the signs stayed and trespassing laws are indeed enforced. Know where you are, respect the rules and regs and always ask permission to access certain areas. At one time TU had an agreement with local farmers for certain areas, but I haven't been up there for a couple of years now so not sure if that's still valid. The COs do patrol up there occasionally so make sure you're legal. You're better off taking your float and bag of roe below the Old Baseline Road, and leave the waters north of there to fly rods. Also, it's a no kill zone so all catch and release. Ouch to the ticket - that's an expensive outing!

Joel52 you were initially correct an "Allowance" is made for all most every navigable water way in Ontario. These Allowances are public land and are not legally private property in any way shape or form. As such they may be traveled freely. The main issue is dealing with the land owners who are ignorant of the law and travelling via these legal routes to our fishing waters. I have had this discussion with both OPP and Conservation officers as recently as last Fall.
Shoreline & Road Allowance:
Most waterfront property in Ontario has a standard 66-foot Shoreline Reservation, unless otherwise transferred to the Deed. This part of the property is owned and controlled by the Ministry of Natural Resources. Usually, no permanent development or shoreline development is allowed on this reservation. In many cases the shoreline reservation may be purchased from the Ministry of Natural Resources. The purpose of a Shoreline Reservation is to preserve the natural habitats and environments of aquatic creatures, birds and plants.
Here are some helpful links if you are in Ontario and like to walk in fish to out of the way places. The first link is especially help full because it show all variences, Allowances and right of ways in Ontario. Makes sure to scroll all the way in as this interactive map is very detailed.
http://www.giscoeapp.lrc.gov.on.ca/matm/Index.html?site=Make_A_Topographic_Map&viewer=MATM&locale=en-US
http://www.producer.com/2004/03/public-access-to-waterways-on-private-property-the-law/

 

[Joel52]

hmmmm... interesting - thanks for the info and links. I suspect the stretch I was referring to belonged to some mucky muck with political sway.

 

[TurboTurtle]

That does happen occasionally but mostly it is ignorance on the part of Law enforcement and Land owners. I used to carry the the regs and the sections of the regulations that cover what we are discussing. I would say that I have enlightened at least 25 property owners and more that a dozen Law enforcement. The first link will show you all legal avenues in and out of a body of water in Ontario. Very useful tool to have on your phone.

 

[sms7biz]

Nice question... :razz:

 

[tombo]

Could you offer any guidance as to where to find this info online? Would love to print it off and carry in the pack!

That does happen occasionally but mostly it is ignorance on the part of Law enforcement and Land owners. I used to carry the the regs and the sections of the regulations that cover what we are discussing. I would say that I have enlightened at least 25 property owners and more that a dozen Law enforcement. The first link will show you all legal avenues in and out of a body of water in Ontario. Very useful tool to have on your phone.

 

[bharkasaig]

I've had a similar conversation on a Western Trib., but not in my favour. Apparently the land-owner had a Deed from a long-dead king that gave him title to the creek-bed. He was nice and graciously escorted me off his land and let me know where it I could 'safely' re-enter the waterway.
He was very concerned about people walking through his property as it was a popular bass spawn site.
It would be helpful to know where the deeds and other restrictions were so people don't get into accidental trouble.