Frustrated....need help

[chinook2835]

So summer is starting to wind down and I've been fishing quite a bit and have been frustrated and lost all confidence in my ability to fish,I can only really fish one spot(fifty point) since I'm only 16 and I haven't caught jack in 5 times being there I've tried for carp,bass,trout and only thing I've managed is gobies and panfish.I really want to get on some good fishign before the summer ends,I'm thinking of trying by that government building by the skyway bridge called the cciw or soemthing like that. I just need some tips for fishing these dog days of summer so I can get some fish while I await salmon season in a month

(Sorry I post a lot I'm just a young avid fisherman trying to learn as much as a I can)

 

[ThereAreFishInThere]

You're putting your time in on the water, these long stretches without a fish is what makes it so gratifying when you do get back into them. Try to not get too discouraged, this happens to everyone. Just because you are not catching anything doesn't mean you're not learning something. You now know where the fish aren't hanging out lol. Sometimes the fish are just not in a certain area. Try fishing at different times, use different presentations, practice other techniques, enjoy the grind.

 

[Trev]

Your ability to fish hasn't changed. Just keep at it and you will start catching again. Like you said, salmon will be in close soon and all your time casting will pay off big time. Keep casting.

 

[rich_ace_G]

2 things...the bad is that, gobies are still here and they will never go away. good sign, you're catching panfish. that means the body of water you're fishing is flourishing. I know a lot of people with advise looking for good cover and water lilies because most bigger fish are waiting in ambush. that is true. but one thing from my experience that also work. look for deeper water...deeper water means a lot. then drop shot the s**t out of it with soft plastics....

 

[chinook2835]

Well I went today again and once again skunked,I was dropshottinf senkos in the morning then started seeing some carp so I set up for them with a pineapple boilies and chummed sweet corn and I seen carp swim over my bait and still nothing,I'm not doing anything wrong either I don't think,I'm hoping once these dog days of summer end I can start getting onto fish

 

[TheTallFisherman]

The key to success with carp is to chum!

You should prebait your swim (water) for 2 days before you intend to fish for carp.

When it is finally time to fish, bring several cans of corn, and throw out about a large spoon full every 15-20 minutes on your bait. Keep your chum area tight/small as that will increase your chances of fish finding your bait.

You should also chum everytime there is a pull (actual take, not a fish bumping your line) and you will have a couple carp landed in no time.

The more you chum, the more fish show up and they get competitive with one another. They actually connect the "droplet" sound of your chumming to food, and will act as an attractant. Careful you dont over feed them either, you should start slow and chum more when you are catching fish.

Make sure you are using a hair rig and set your drag loose if your not using a bait runner.

Goodluck!

 

[fisherman2280]

Look up a hair rig for your carp fishing it helps a lot. Half the time you wont feel the bite from a carp.

There seems to be a lot of easy food for other fish to eat from the sound of it, so stop wasting time with plastics. Instead start tossing some spoons and cover a lot of ground and depths.

A little tip for harbor fishing, they have a pretty big temperature change that can happen day to day even hour to hour with a strong current so it would be interesting to know the harbor temp and the main lake temp. If there is a major difference you need to adjust, I know a few that and at the right time there on fire but all other times there dead.

Good luck.

 

[chinook2835]

I actually have a lot of the carp fishing stuff like the bait runner reel,8 ft ugly stick catfish rod(not a fan of the long rods) and have pretty much mastered the hair rigs,I think where I'm screwing up is location usually I fish where I see the carp hanging on top of the water and cast there but I feel like at maybe to shallow,if by chance I post the picture in here could u maybe tell me where I'd most likely find feeding carp,I pretty much know the marina off by heart with depths and all

 

[rich_ace_G]

If you're targeting carp. I would suggest a feeder. I don't like chumming as it scatters them. Feeder will get them right close to your hook. You can make your own feeder out of wire. My secret ingredient is corn flour. not corn meal. flour.mixed with some corn. hair rig about 5 kernels.

 

[rich_ace_G]

I don't like drop shotting senkos. I find them fat and i lose a lot of hooksets. the zooms and dingers are smaller and works well. deep rocky bottoms are ideal if you're going after bass. And I don't know which part of the city you're fishing so all these tips I give you may not even work.

 

[chinook2835]

If you're targeting carp. I would suggest a feeder. I don't like chumming as it scatters them. Feeder will get them right close to your hook. You can make your own feeder out of wire. My secret ingredient is corn flour. not corn meal. flour.mixed with some corn. hair rig about 5 kernels.

Usually I use a pack bait of jello oats corn and Panko, and jsut through balls out as I don't have a method feeder and usually cast near it then chum a bit of corn after wards and usually get on my bait,I fish fifty point marina in Winona as it's close and I can't drive on my own yet

 

[ThereAreFishInThere]

You don't need a feeder, use the same mixture of oats/corn etc. you are using now and mold it around your lead weight attached to your line to make a ball, then cast it out. You might need to play around with the amount of liquid to ensure it doesn't crumble apart when you toss it but still breaks apart under water. Just be careful as this can get quite heavy.

 

[rich_ace_G]

Usually I use a pack bait of jello oats corn and Panko, and jsut through balls out as I don't have a method feeder and usually cast near it then chum a bit of corn after wards and usually get on my bait,I fish fifty point marina in Winona as it's close and I can't drive on my own yet

I would say try casting or drop shotting the Lake Ontario side. lots of rocky structures ideal for bass. they love rocky structures...


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[chinook2835]

You don't need a feeder, use the same mixture of oats/corn etc. you are using now and mold it around your lead weight attached to your line to make a ball, then cast it out. You might need to play around with the amount of liquid to ensure it doesn't crumble apart when you toss it but still breaks apart under water. Just be careful as this can get quite heavy.

thanks I always thought it would fall off so I'll try and get it to the right ratio,I also think it's the location that I'm getting wrong,should I fish in the marina or out into the lake,I see them in the marina but they don't bite

 

[chinook2835]

You don't need a feeder, use the same mixture of oats/corn etc. you are using now and mold it around your lead weight attached to your line to make a ball, then cast it out. You might need to play around with the amount of liquid to ensure it doesn't crumble apart when you toss it but still breaks apart under water. Just be careful as this can get quite heavy.

thanks I always thought it would fall off so I'll try and get it to the right ratio,I also think it's the location that I'm getting wrong,should I fish in the marina or out into the lake,I see them in the marina but they don't bite

 

[fisherman2280]

Try using a cheesecloth, wrap your bait in a ball and attach to line. Works great.

 

[chinook2835]

Try using a cheesecloth, wrap your bait in a ball and attach to line. Works great.

I have pva so I don't think the issue is me getting my bait to my chum I jsut think it's location

 

[Tubetrax]

To stop being robbed by Pinfish.
They will eat the meat out of the shrimp shell from the side, you can barely even snag them
I use the salmon roe sack trick with cut pieces of shrimp for saltwater fishing.
They can't get to the meat.

I'll Buy Dollar Store Panty Hose cut into squares & tie my shrimp pieces.
Even comes in colours!

I get the Big Ole XXXXXL Trampoline Sized Panty Hose,
Lots of material to work with.
You Guys know ?
The ones 2 or more of us could fit into.
WHO SAID THAT !

My point being, Make a Baitball Sack with large cut squares from a pair of,
Trampoline sized Panty Hose.
Your Baitball won't fall apart this way

Run your circle hook under the knot & leave the circle hook fully exposed.
Don't set the hook, let them swallow the bait the start reeling.
Once the hook sets give it a little tug to make sure it's set.

Tight Lines
Dan

 

[chinook2835]

To stop being robbed by Pinfish.
They will eat the meat out of the shrimp shell from the side, you can barely even snag them
I use the salmon roe sack trick with cut pieces of shrimp for saltwater fishing.
They can't get to the meat.

I'll Buy Dollar Store Panty Hose cut into squares & tie my shrimp pieces.
Even comes in colours!

I get the Big Ole XXXXXL Trampoline Sized Panty Hose,
Lots of material to work with.
You Guys know ?
The ones 2 or more of us could fit into.
WHO SAID THAT !

My point being, Make a Baitball Sack with large cut squares from a pair of,
Trampoline sized Panty Hose.
Your Baitball won't fall apart this way

Run your circle hook under the knot & leave the circle hook fully exposed.
Don't set the hook, let them swallow the bait the start reeling.
Once the hook sets give it a little tug to make sure it's set.

Tight Lines
Dan

I use this with roe for Trout and salmon,no need for it with carp

 

[Tubetrax]

Yes I believe I said the salmon roe sack trick,
(Which is primarily used for salmon & trout)

You missed the whole point of keeping the baitball intact !

Tight lines,
Dan