For white fish size 8 work's pretty well suit with chub's, also work's well for jumbo perch, and keep's the wee lil one's off the hook. I went out this weekend with the old man for a 24 hour ice fishing mission and it was slow!. One thing i forgot to check before going, is the lunar calendar. It was about 90% full which usually shift's normal feeding ground's when in between the range of 85% to full. So the mass amounts jumbo perch and the school of trolling whitefish caught on friday 11th, were no where to be seen in the same condition's on tuesday the 14th. I will definitely mention though that the night time bring's out the big boy's of the perch world. Around 3 am it picked up a bit. Unfortunately i have a "yeah, sure buddy" story involving a perch that was the approx. 16-17 inch's and at least 2 lbs, more 2 1/4, that was on my dad's line. The fish ran his line up along the wooden board that outlined the slot of open water and cut it. Easily the biggest perch i have seen in my life, but we kept a couple of 1 lber's and a nice 12 inch that was just over 1 1/2lbs. Either way, check your moon's before departing for some ice fishing!. I'll post some pics once i upload em.