So after lots of asking questions on here and on the creeks I finally narrowed it down and bought my starter Centrepin setup. Decided on a Okuma Guide Select Rod in 13'6". It's IM8 and a lot lighter in the hand than the Raven, and with a bad shoulder it means something to me. Went with the Rapala Shift reel as I was really impressed with how smooth it felt. Pretty excited to get this, it's on lay away will pick it up tomorrow. All said out the door for $380.