MY salmon/steelhead outfit

[fisher12]

8 feet version http://www.rapala.ca...rapala/rsc2.php and has 12 pound mono main line and 8 fluoro pound leader.I just want to know if this is good using roe in the Credit river?

 

[Djsms]

8 feet version http://www.rapala.ca...rapala/rsc2.php and has 12 pound main line and 8 pound leader.I just want to know if this is good using roe in the Credit river?

Rods a little short if you are float drift fishing with roe. Which is why you are using a heaver line. If you want to drop down to 3 or 4 lb test you will likely lose a lot of fish because the rod is short and stiff. You can likely get away with this set up after a rain or when the water is murky. For days you really have to work for them when the water is slowe and clear lighter line is prefered on the credit.

The shorter rod also makes it harder to keep the line out of the water interfering with a clean natural drift.

 

[float^drifter]

this rods good for chucking lures of the pier and using spinners. U shoud a went at least with a 10 foot for the rivers, i prefer 13". 8 for leader is to much i use 8 lb for my main line lol. All depends on water conditions like dj said u coud get away with 8 in dirty water but when in gin clear good luck lol.

 

[fisher12]

this rods good for chucking lures of the pier and using spinners. U shoud a went at least with a 10 foot for the rivers, i prefer 13". 8 for leader is to much i use 8 lb for my main line lol. All depends on water conditions like dj said u coud get away with 8 in dirty water but when in gin clear good luck lol.

Well I don't think they make spinning rods 10 feet, and I forgot to mention earlier the 8 pound is fluorocarbon and that should make a difference because isn't it invisible to fish.

 

[efka]

x2 for chucking lures from piers. will also fit salmon river fishing.
don't get confused if you see steelhead/salmon rod in description

this rod is too short and too stiff for steelhead river fishing.
get a rod that is 13 at least with line rating 4-8, and use 4lb fluoro.
credit gets a lot of pressure from anglers and by downsizing leader, hook and bait you will have a chance landing steelhead.

 

[Djsms]

Well I don't think they make spinning rods 10 feet, and I forgot to mention earlier the 8 pound is fluorocarbon and that should make a difference because isn't it invisible to fish.

you can get a spnning rod 15' if you like, maybe just not the brand you are looking at. I would classify the 8' rod for salmon fishing with 3/4 oz spoons, generally how I would use such a rod. yes flouro is vertually invisable under water in certain condtions. A lighter line is still less visible, makes less noise, and allows the bait to fall more natrural as the line is not as stiff. You can get away with 8lb in dirty water or at night, but during sun hours I would go down to a least 6lb max nothing larger. In clear water or when the fish are spooked you may even need to drop down to a 2lb line.

For my set up I use 6lb or 8lb flouro main line, and 4 lb lead is most common for where I fish, as I said I drop down to 2 lb in real finess situations.

Lighter line makes a difference for a lot of species not just trout, experiment and you will see.

 

[fisher12]

well since I have the 8 pound already, i'm gonna try it ,do you think it can catch ANY steelhead when the water is clear.

 

[fisher12]

you can get a spnning rod 15' if you like, maybe just not the brand you are looking at. I would classify the 8' rod for salmon fishing with 3/4 oz spoons, generally how I would use such a rod. yes flouro is vertually invisable under water in certain condtions. A lighter line is still less visible, makes less noise, and allows the bait to fall more natrural as the line is not as stiff. You can get away with 8lb in dirty water or at night, but during sun hours I would go down to a least 6lb max nothing larger. In clear water or when the fish are spooked you may even need to drop down to a 2lb line.

For my set up I use 6lb or 8lb flouro main line, and 4 lb lead is most common for where I fish, as I said I drop down to 2 lb in real finess situations.

Lighter line makes a difference for a lot of species not just trout, experiment and you will see.

I checked gloomis,rapala and daiwa for rods that long

 

[float^drifter]

well since I have the 8 pound already, i'm gonna try it ,do you think it can catch ANY steelhead when the water is clear.

u coud but go very early in the moring thats your best bet. u coud always use your 8lb as shot line and then add smaller leader line to it. 6, 4, or 2 what ever seems to work best.

 

[LICENSETOPIN]

technically a properly presented bait is what catches you fish not your rod n reel setup.
that being said i do agree with the fellow members because a longer rod will improve your presentation majorly.
a longer rod keeps line out of the water keeping your drift as a natural as possible and as stated above
enables you to run thinner line for those clear water situations. still doesnt mean you wont catch steelies with your current rod setup tho.

 

[blair]

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[Djsms]

I checked gloomis,rapala and daiwa for rods that long

Just go to bass pro or LeBaron but you have to go to the store. Fore some reason steelhead fishing gear is not that poular for them to advertise online, or put sales on in their flyer.

 

[Djsms]

- 2-4 lbs vs 6-8lbs DOES not make much difference to a bow. Matter of fact, if youre only going say 3 for 6 (landing) it means your using the WRONG SET UP, tying you're line, swivels, hooks... something wrong.

Ok Blair, lets do a test next time we go out together. You use 8lb, and I will use 4lb. we will drift the same pool with the exact same bait and lead length. Just a freindly challenge

 

[stdavidsboy]

Blair:

The CREDIT is UNIQUE and certainly does have subtle conditions that demand different techniques to catch the STEELIES.
HOWEVER: If your ever in doubt as to STEELHEAD NATURE, just go down to NIAGARA FALLS and then tell me about how: "GENTLE" they are.
*SMILES* ... they will SMASH that PRESENTATION like the true KILLERS they really are.

I can fully attest to Blair's comment above... the credit does have special considerations at times but, bows are bows are bows and if you need to be reminded of how they devour your presentation, come on down to the Niagara river. See Branden or Angela from Peter's Tackle and Bait for local updates for what's happening there (or, of course, check here....). A good day on the Niagara may in fact spoil you for the Credit for a season or two. Like any fish anywhere, you just have to know what they're eating and when.

Djsms:

Ok Blair, lets do a test next time we go out together. You use 8lb, and I will use 4lb. we will drift the same pool with the exact same bait and lead length. Just a freindly challenge

Try 4lb test in the Whirlpool and see how long it lasts floating alongside the icebergs and slush

FYI, I was down to the whirlpool on Friday. Water colour and clarity was good, cold as hell, but a bit too much ice. I caught a small laker, and some other fellas caught a larger laker and some browns. Seemed that finesse minnows or powerbait minnows were on.

 

[Djsms]

Blair:

Djsms:

Try 4lb test in the Whirlpool and see how long it lasts floating alongside the icebergs and slush

FYI, I was down to the whirlpool on Friday. Water colour and clarity was good, cold as hell, but a bit too much ice. I caught a small laker, and some other fellas caught a larger laker and some browns. Seemed that finesse minnows or powerbait minnows were on.

This thread was refering to Credit river. I agree with you If I was doing the whirlpool I would likely beef up to 8lb lead, 6 lb if the water is clear.

Glad you got a fish must have been cold.

 

[ret0dd]

I Would Let Fisher12 Try It Out.

He Seems Pretty Adamant About It. Im Assuming Someone Was Poking Fun That You Dont Need Those 12-15' rods or the issue of carrying those rods on the bus. They do however make a three piece but it might be out of the price budget.

Ive Done The Same And Later Realized What A HUGE Difference It Makes.



anyways try it out and have fun.

Cheer,

Todd

 

[fisher12]

I Would Let Fisher12 Try It Out.

He Seems Pretty Adamant About It. Im Assuming Someone Was Poking Fun That You Dont Need Those 12-15' rods or the issue of carrying those rods on the bus. They do however make a three piece but it might be out of the price budget.

Ive Done The Same And Later Realized What A HUGE Difference It Makes.



anyways try it out and have fun.

Cheer,

Todd

No because I have the gear already, that's why I'm going to try it out and most likely I will catch a steellead
If i was going to be adamant about it then I wouldn't have asked for input or help

 

[ret0dd]

Not To Stir The Pot.

But You've Been Asking Questions For A While Now.

And In This Thread You Have Asked About The Rapala Rod but already bought it????

Just My Two Cents. But Good Luck And Enjoy The Steele Heads Expecting Lots Of Reports From You.

Cheers,
t0dd