Need some advice, I keep losing lures and hooks!

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So it seems like every time I go out to fish, I lose anywhere from 2-5 lures. Sometimes it's really stupid stuff, sometimes it feels inevitable. Some other times, I have lost my lure right on the cast. Can someone go over the BEST knots to tie for lures and for bait hooks as well? The simple fisherman's knot Ive known since I was a kid just does not feel strong enough. Thanks for reading!
 
....what kind of line u using? differnt line call for differnt knots.
do u use a swivle?

do u use a leader or do you tie directly to the lure?

what kind of fish do you go for?

many things come into consideration depending on the type of fishing u do.
 
I use a polamar knot for all braided lines, and the improved clinch knot for monofilament and flourocarbon lines. Remember to wet your knot before tightening it.
 
i use this for my braid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of8-LkQlkOU

and for my mono or floro i use just a normal clinch or a improved clinch knot
and make sure u dont totally cut off the loose end of the knot i usually leave a half inch or i tie a normal overhand knot so it wont slip.

ur lure comes off because of your knots. theres no other explanation.
 
Palomar and improved clinch are the way to go.

Good tip above about wetting your line before tightening. If you don't lubricate it the friction will weaken the line where the knot is and it'll break off.
 
When you lose your lure/hook at the cast it is probably due to "wind knots". Line is continuing to spool off your reel after the lure hits the water, when you begin reeling the line back in you are reeling in knots or loops, when you cast again this knot/loop gets caught in the rod eye at the tip. Long story short - the line at the knot/loop snaps - taking the lure with it.

be sure you are always reeling in line under tension. I learnt the hard way, hope this helps.

read that the Palomar is the strongest knot ?? And dead easy...
 
I use two knots for ALL of my fishing, I learned my main knot from UK style carp fishing. The double overhand loop knot. You fold your line over to make a loop, then you tie the loop into a knot but pass the loop through twice. your left with an no slip loop. from there i slide the loop through the eye of a hook,swivel, fly, etc and then bring the item back through the loop. Best part about this knot, you can remove your hook, lure, fly, swivel without having to cut the line or untie.

http://videofishingknots.com/double-overhand-loop.html

I know there are better knots for certain things, but I find I can use this knot for almost everything, and again, best thing about it, you make the loop big enough to pass what ever you are attaching to tline through the loop and now you have a way to remove the item without cutting the line and retieing. for fly fishing, i understand that tieing on your fly with this knot doesnot give you the optimal action for the fly, but in all honesty, I catch just as much fish with the very convienant double overhand loop, and i can swap flies very quickly without having to retie. Perfect for middle of winter steelheading


The other knot i use is a double blood for tieing two lines together. I only use this for fly fishing of course, to tie my leader to my tippet.

EDIT:

In retrospect, the palomar is quite simlar as far as the ease of tie, but much stronger than the double over hand. you cannot untie the palomar though. If your looking for a strong knot, go with the palomar. but to be honest, I use the double overhand which is known as a weak knot, and i never break off at the knot. like never. your trouble might be caused by windknots, to light of line for the lure, different stuff like that. for lure fishing, just throw on some heavy braid, 20lb, you wont break it off. problem solved.
 
i use braid and short fluro leaders.
so my rig generally looks like this.

braid <alberto knot> fluoro <palomar> bb swivel clip
or
braid <double line uni> bb swivel <palomar> fluoro <palomar> clip

for shore and inshore... for offshore sw, its a totally different story.
 
Hmmm...apparently I use a "slightly" different improved Clinch knot for flouro/mono/braid but just double loop it coming back through and have never had a break off using it. Though I think I might have to try the Palomar...looks easy!
 
OCDComputing said:
Hmmm...apparently I use a "slightly" different improved Clinch knot for flouro/mono/braid but just double loop it coming back through and have never had a break off using it. Though I think I might have to try the Palomar...looks easy!
Easiest not out there in my opinion. Had troubles just like the author above had before, losing lures, getting so frustrated because they would com doff at casts, weeds and hook sets so as soon as I had it right I was golden. Thankfully it didn't take me a couple of outings and now its my go-to no matter what line I'm using.
 
one thing a lot of sites dont talk about is how many loops to put in a clinch knot. ive never had one slip on me so i assume i got it down right.

like on a thicker or mono you can get away with 4 or 5 turns but on a smaller or more delicate line like flouro you want a couple more (up to 8 )
to spread the load because its so brittle compared to mono and subject to cutting into itself if too much pressure falls on one loop.

if youre pulling your lineback and it has one tiny kink near where it broke its most likely the line cutting itself on the knot, if its a very long series of kink the whole knot came undone.
if its just broke with no kinks its most likely a knot on the line or a weak point that broke.

of course the palomar is superior in strength and ease. but i just personally prefer the clinch. i learned most of my stuff on saltwater with big lines and its hard with some large lines to get that double loop through a hook eye for the palomar.
 
Shmogley said:
one thing a lot of sites dont talk about is how many loops to put in a clinch knot. ive never had one slip on me so i assume i got it down right.

like on a thicker or mono you can get away with 4 or 5 turns but on a smaller or more delicate line like flouro you want a couple more (up to 8 )
to spread the load because its so brittle compared to mono and subject to cutting into itself if too much pressure falls on one loop.

if youre pulling your lineback and it has one tiny kink near where it broke its most likely the line cutting itself on the knot, if its a very long series of kink the whole knot came undone.
if its just broke with no kinks its most likely a knot on the line or a weak point that broke.

of course the palomar is superior in strength and ease. but i just personally prefer the clinch. i learned most of my stuff on saltwater with big lines and its hard with some large lines to get that double loop through a hook eye for the palomar.
hook is not big enough if you cant get a doubled line through.
and when leaders get into the 80lb+ areas,, you really shouldnt tie knots as crimps or friction knots are better.
 

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