Setting hook/losing fish :(

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Kasim Baluch

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So I've been fishing the most I've even fished in a summer so far, mostly targeting bass and being decently successful. For the hours I've been fishing I really think I should be getting more fish but to me, more practice will pay off. That being said, every time I got out I usually get 1-5 fish, mostly NOT bass for a morning or afternoon fishing for a couple of hours. BUT when I do hook on a bass with a senko worm, real worm or even a crank bait, I set the hook and start reeling. Once the fish is on and I'm trying to get it closer to the boat, I've had it happen maybe 4-5 times this summer where the bass comes off and I use the fish. I'm not quite sure how to fix my technique or if you guys have any advice. Since my success rate isn't THAT great, I wanna make sure that when I do hook one on I don't let it go!

Any help would be great! Losing fish is the worse feeling, especially for a semi-beginner like me! :cry:
 
Hi Bang

It happens to all of us, usually with single hooks and not often with lures tho. But anyways, what's probably happening is that your hook sets are not deep enough into the barb so they can get off. Once I've set the hook and while fighting the fish I'll set the hook again but not too hard b/c there's no way to tell if the hook is in thin flesh or right into bone. You don't want to tear flesh and lose the fish. Try it double hook set might bring them in for you too.

Best of luck.
 
I will second the double hook set!

Especially if I get taken by surprise and get a weak hook set on the initial bite or an awkward one, I will go for a second firm tug to make sure everything is nice and set.

Are you loosing them as they come out of the water or just randomly while they are fighting you underwater?
 
I will second the double hook set!

Especially if I get taken by surprise and get a weak hook set on the initial bite or an awkward one, I will go for a second firm tug to make sure everything is nice and set.

Are you loosing them as they come out of the water or just randomly while they are fighting you underwater?

I've lost two this past weekend when they were jumping out of the water and I lost a potential to be MY biggest catch so far with a huge bass when I reeled him in and I bent down to pick him out of the water. I just felt the fish, no pressure on him and it swam off but he was just barely out of the water.

When I'm reeling a fish in, is it better to let it fight a bit, make him tired then reel or just reel as fast as I can as soon as I see that the fish is on?

I'll definitely try the double hook set!
 
Losing bass on the jump is the most common way to lose bass. At some spots if I am really trying to avoid losing fish I avoid having the fish jump at all costs. When you feel the fish coming to the surface put your rod tip down and reel in very fast for a few seconds, in my experience this will usually cause the fish to just boil at the surface rather than actually become airborn.

With that being said...most of the time while bass fishing I keep my rod tip up to allow the bass to jump as high as possible lol.
 
the way i see it there nothing wrong with "losing" a few bass each week. It is all part of the "game" and we just mutter something like "quick release" and smile. He won that round. Yes, double hook set, sharpen your hooks as well, big time. We have pinched off all our barbs down here for the past 20 years and I tell you, it s the way to go. We haven't really noticed an increase in lost fish and tissue damage to our catches has really fallen off big time. Heck, we use to lose smallies as well now and then when they flew out of the water. Having said that, maybe my gang and I have fished for so long, it is no ionger a numbers game for us. But yes, sharpen your hooks, be surprised how dull they get after a few snags and such.
 
Ok so before you even make your first cast, pull on the line in front of the reel. Is the drag set just below the breaking point of the line? If you want to be more accurate take the line from the rod tip and pull on it, if you got 8 lb line your reel should let line out when you're pulling about 4-6 lbs. If not then adjust the drag so it will let out line when you try again. Now you got your drag set properly for open water fishing, if there are weeds or you are running a heavy lure you will have to set the drag to about 6 lbs. None of this is in stone, you have to go by feel. Heavy weed cover will make you think you got a fish and if you pull it's just weeds. 8 lb line is stronger than most weeds so rip it off.

That magic moment when you feel a bite, NIBBLE NIBBLE BITE SET THE HOOK, FIGHT, SET THE HOOK AGAIN, you can use a bit of force since you know the drag is already set properly. The fish is on and he's fighting you to get away, keep the line tight, don't give any slack. Like Nado said keep your rod tip up, but as soon as you feel slack that usually means he's going to go airborne, at this point you should be reeling like mad to regain tension and control of the fish and then drop your tip to the water to make him think he's stuck on something in the water and there is no need to jump. As he struggles against your drag, if it pays out line then let your reel do it's job. The job of your rod now is to take any shock out of a fish's jerky fight, and to prevent the line from snapping. Point your rod away from the fish at about 65-80 degrees up or to the side, this will allow the rod to bend and absorb alot of shock. Now when you feel that the fish is getting tired you can begin the process of landing him. Start raising your rod to pull him closer, as the rod reaches vertical you must reel and lower your rod simultaneously. You are in effect taking in line by pulling and taking in line to get him closer so you can land it. Keep on raising your rod taking in line until he's close enough to net him. But when he is close enough to see you, this is when he might panic and make a last ditch run again. Then you have to keep your rod tip pointing up and let your drag work for you again. He may only take out a little line but that's part of the fun. The more he takes the more time you have to fight him to make him tired. If you plan to release him you'll have to give him time in the water to recover. So net him, take your pics and post them here so we can see.....lol. Then by grabbing his lower lip (for bass only, don't do this with pike, walleye or muskie) hold him in the water and let water enter his gills. You will know when he is ready to go, you'll feel his strength come back and he'll take off in a shot and dive or swim away. Congrats you've fought, landed and released your bass. I know it seems like alot of things to do but not to worry it will come to you when you get your next fish on. When I was a kid, I'd practice at home inside, tip up, reel in and let the tip down, tip up, reel let the tip down.

Ha Nado and I like the bass acrobatics. If you want to see bass jumping and don't mind losing the chance at getting any pics with it then keep your rod tip pointing up. This will make it jump out of the water for some spectacular flips. Love them flying bass.......lol.

Dugger is right sharp hooks are crucial. They get banged up on rocks and won't hook anything. Good point about the barbs ripping flesh too.
Best of luck.
 
When fishing stationery live bait such as worms for bass, I always give an extra strong hook set or two, especially if using a bobber. Keeping tension on the line is very important with bass because they have large mouths and are such strong fighters.

I like to use fairly large hooks for bass. You can't go too big on your hook when bass fishing.

As for tactics for playing and landing the fish, that often comes with experience. Soon enough you instinctively know how to play the fish to keep tension on the line and minimize the chances of the hook popping out.

There are the moments when you forget to switch the anti-reverse button back, so you're fighting the fish without any drag.
 
Lots of GREAT RESPONSES and TIPS! - from everybody




I Really liked Grubman's description. Made me FEEL that I was actually landing a fish.


Basics:

1. Drag Set

2. Sharp Hooks

3. Properly Tide Knot


There are (2) main schools of thought when it comes to setting a hook.

1) The first is our PROFESSIONAL BASS FISHERMAN (Just watch the TV shows)

- On a scale of 1-10 in PULL UP and HOOK SETTING FORCE ... these guys will use an 11!

- They will then proceed to literally drag/haul the fish in at 100 mph

* They are the professionals, experienced and good at what they do. They usually are also using 30+ braid line.

(I DO NOT catch my Bass this Way! My personal enjoyment in catching Bass is very different. I use about a (5-6) on the HOOK SET PULL. Lifting my rod only about 2-3 feet. The PRO's will give almost a 5 ft upward or sideways Pull. Never stand beside a PRO when they are Bass Fishing. You may lose and eye .... *SMILES*)

2) Then there is the Casual Fishermen, Out for a good time and Fight on the Water. I would reccommend the tips given.



As far as AIR is CONCERNED: One of the most BEAUTIFUL SIGHTS a fisherman can see and experience. However, every time it happens our hearts sink slightly becasue we "Know" this is the DANGER TIME when the line can go slack and little head jerks cause the hook to throw. Ask any steelheader or Bass fishermen about the Airials and they all love and hate em! Go with the rod tip advice given to prevent FLIGHT, or if your like me ..... WHAT THE HECK, enjoy the show.


I do not typically double set my hook. To each there own, but for me ... I have lost more fish doing this vs. just going with my initial set and keeping the LINE TIGHT at ALL TIMES! Never, ever, ever ... let the line go slack!

* Trout have a tendacy to RUN right back at you! Bass will also do this sometimes. I really dont have any tips on that except that you will learn with experience. Sometimes you just have to be ready to reel that line in at 100 mph when they decide to come back at you.


Win some lose some.....



Aint Fishing Great?
 
I'm still so happy with all the help I've been getting from today so thank you everybody!! I really appreciate all the help! :)

I know it will come with time and losing them happens sometimes but I just wanted to minimize my chances of that happening. I'll take in all of your advice and hopefully get some pictures going when I get a hold of it :lol:

Thanks guys!

:wink: I love OFF
 
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