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Mr. Bassturd

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Alright so I posted a fly tied by myself the other day using a feather that dropped off of my pet bird.. so I have been continuing my ventures he hasn't dropped many lately so i'm a little short on supplies lol but I managed to get a few smaller ones and decided to attempt a trout nymph fly using a # 6 hook using orange and green thread since Halloween is coming up I call it pumpkin-tiel :lol:
I tried to conform a little more to the rules of fly tying but of course put my own flare to it on this one I am also lacking tools so everything is done by hand for now. I feel that with a stand and proper tools I could make the thread much tighter. Once again comments are welcome good or bad... just keep it civil... Thank you

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You're definitely improving.

Keep at it! Looks good.

One piece of advice, try to make the start of the wing closer to the head of the fly, it'll help keep the fly looking more realistic and balanced.
 
ChasinTails said:
thats a good tie but im pretty sure thats the wrong hook
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IMO there's no actual wrong hook, maybe it's not a fly hook or a hook commonly used with flies but I don't see a problem with tying on those hooks especially for a beginner. I've tied flies with bait hooks and they've come out fine.
 
You are definitely improving and I agree, you will do even better with proper tools. I have to say though that nymphs usually have a wingcase - your fly, because of the protruding wing, looks more like a wet fly or emerger.


There is much to learn about fly tying including selection of materials and their various qualities and handling them to get the affect you seek; proportion of materials to each other and on the hook, and several tricks for applying the materials in the best order.


But there is one feature that makes all flies look better, last longer, and easier to use - avoid crowding the eye of the hook with material. I still do this on occasion when I am excited and want that extra wrap of material or don't think ahead enough.


When tying the fly, leave a space behind the eye of about 5 or 6 thread wraps - on a small fly this will be about the same distance as the size of the eye. Thus you will have space to finish everything off and wrap a nice head. Coat the head with 'head cement', lacquer, or Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails from the drug store.


Cheers.

 
Giuga10 said:
You're definitely improving.

Keep at it! Looks good.

One piece of advice, try to make the start of the wing closer to the head of the fly, it'll help keep the fly looking more realistic and balanced.
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originally it was like that before I added the silver band I think if I make another I will put the silver band first and then the feathers

ChasinTails said:
thats a good tie but im pretty sure thats the wrong hook
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thanks for the heads up to be honest I have tons of these hooks lying around as I usually buy the multi pack with a 100 hooks use one size and put the rest away for a rainy day and buy another pack. (dollarama) lol but I do have hooks more "appropriate" to "fly tying" its just for this one I wanted the effect of the shorter shank or body and the curve of the tail it was kinda what I was aiming for and plus I need to use up some of these hooks lol
 
Jacklake said:
You are definitely improving and I agree, you will do even better with proper tools. I have to say though that nymphs usually have a wingcase - your fly, because of the protruding wing, looks more like a wet fly or emerger.




There is much to learn about fly tying including selection of materials and their various qualities and handling them to get the affect you seek; proportion of materials to each other and on the hook, and several tricks for applying the materials in the best order.



But there is one feature that makes all flies look better, last longer, and easier to use - avoid crowding the eye of the hook with material. I still do this on occasion when I am excited and want that extra wrap of material or don't think ahead enough.



When tying the fly, leave a space behind the eye of about 5 or 6 thread wraps - on a small fly this will be about the same distance as the size of the eye. Thus you will have space to finish everything off and wrap a nice head. Coat the head with 'head cement', lacquer, or Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails from the drug store.



Cheers.


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thanks for the input once again and thanks for the tip on to many wraps near the head I think I did get carried away a little before I knew it the eye of the hook was almost covered. I definitely need to do some more reading on this subject as well so that I understand the different types of flies better as I have only very basic knowledge so far... So far I have been going off the top of my head and by what I have seen elsewhere somewhat .

cheers
 
Wow, thats great improvement. I think it looks like an emerger. The wing could be more forward but I kind of like the look. The hook shape is fine, like a bug that is in movement. I tie numphs in similar positions. Ian Collin James has a larger nymph called a 'Muncher' (http://www3.sympatico.ca/ianjames/muncher-nymph.html) , that is usaually tied in that style. It is a good example of stone type nymph with a wing case. I would work on getting them a bit smaller say size 10-14's. Will be much easier with a vice. Keep at at it, great progress.
 
Really nice. I can see a fish hitting that.

As helpful as all the tips are, you really just need to tie a lot and get some practice done, which it seems like you are. Keep it up and don't give in!
 
alrighty I took some of the advice mentioned here and attempted number 3 I know I'm getting carried away here but i'm having fun and no worrys my bird still has all his feathers :mrgreen: I started off with a wooly worm in mind but got sidetracked as usual and the feather ended up on top instead of wrapping it back towards the front. I also stuck with the same colour scheme..


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When i started mine looked a lot like yours. Try doing the least possible wraps when you are not tying something on. Also, are you whip finishing them? Cause i think i see a loose thread. If you didnt even tie it then it will just fall apart
 
Lessons are available at reasonable price and many shops offer open vise periods where tiers come in and you can pick their brains or just watch and pick up tricks.
 

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