Coreyhkh said:
Hi everyone I am trying to catch pike but I have not had much luck, it seems they dont like my lures, I have been using a perch jointed and black/silver jointed I have caught Bass and one pike but I would like to improve my odds I have never really had much luck caching them.
Firstly, have you caught these bass and one pike in this pond you are fishing? If so, possibly going after the bass would be a better idea (not to let you down on your idea of catching pike). The problem with this is fishing for bass with the possibility of catching pike is tricky, because you don't want to lose your lure by not using a leader, while not wanting to scare off the bass by using one. Also, in a heavily weeded area, you don't want to get snagged up.
But if you are set on pulling the pike out of there, as previously mentioned, if the pond is 70' deep (crazy depth) the pike won't be sitting that low, but probably 10-15', and even more likely to be patrolling the edges where it is shallower.
Judging that it's so deep, the water is not likely going to be very murky. I've found in clearer water, a Mepps Black Fury (#3 or #4) with chartreuse works best. If it was really murky/muddy, red has worked best for me. I've never had much luck with yellow (odd yet true).
Personally, I love spoons though. The Red Devil (as previously mentioned) is always a hit, but I've had better luck with a silver Willams Wobbler, Mepps Cyclops, silver with red stripes on a metallic yellow backdrop, or the firetiger. There isn't a vast amount of monster pike in my area, usually between 18" and 30", so I usually use a #3. I've tried #4's and they just don't have the same great consistant results.
None of those are good in weeds though, so you'll want to bring them as close to the edge of the weeds without getting snagged up.
I've been looking into expanding my horizons and have a bunch of new crank, jerk and topwater baits to try out, along with some jig type setups I found on ebay (from a guy from Northern Ontario). If I find something that seems to work better than the others, I'll be sure to post it.
Warning, If you are going to cast into the weeds or even fish near where the fish may dart back into the weeds, make sure you have a heavy line so you can get the fish out, otherwise you might as well just give the money to charity instead of wasting it on lost lures.