BowFin Toronto Islands May 2008 -possible sighting

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In May 2008 i believe a fish that i repeatedly saw in the Trout Pond at Toronto Islands was a Bowfin.....
i am 85 % sure ...so my project this year is to catch..photograph..release one - so that i can stop dreaming about the darn fish and move on...but from researching the fish its sounds like they are a good fighting fish...saw some utube video to back that fish's reputation too...also historically speaking they are pretty darn interesting...read below.... if you have any info about bowfin being caught in lake ontario let me know i would certainly appreciate it.
thanks....

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Bow Fin - (Amia calva)
Length: 18 to 24 inches

Weight: 2-3 pounds

Coloring: back and sides olive-colored, often with dark mottling; belly cream-colored to white; paired fins and anal fin are bright green

Common Names: dogfish, mudfish, grindle, lawyer

Found in Lakes: Lake Michigan (Green Bay), Lake Huron, Lake Erie, Lake Ontario

The bowfin is the only living member of an ancient family, which is the only family remaining of the order Amiiformes. Bowfins are especially well-represented in fossils from the middle Mesozoic era, more than 100 million years ago.
The current species is somewhat of a relict, with a primitive skeleton (part bone and part cartilage) and a double skull (a bony outer layer and a cartilage inner layer), characteristics it shares with members of the gar family. Fishes of more recent ancestry have skeletons made entirely of bone.

Yet the bowfin is an evolutionary step beyond the gars, even though it is an evolutionary step behind more modern fish. While gars have thick, diamond-shaped scales that do not overlap, bowfins have thin scales more like those of modern fishes. They are also the only primitive fish to provide parental care for their young.

Bowfins live in lakes and large slow-moving rivers with plentiful vegetation. They tolerate silt and mud and can survive in warm, stagnant water by breathing air. Most fish use their gas bladders for buoyancy, but the bowfin's gas bladder also allows it to extract oxygen from the air. This ability to breathe air may allow bowfins to burrow in mud to survive drought. A similar behavior is seen in African lungfishes and is called aestivation. Tomelleri and Eberle in Fishes of the Central United States cite farmers in the Mississippi Valley "who occasionally turned up live bowfins with the plow after floodwaters had receded from farmland."



Bowfins reach spawning age within 3-5 years. Males are always smaller than females and probably do not live as long. They spawn in the spring in nests the male has created by biting off the vegetation in an area of 1.5 to 2.5 feet in diameter. Males protect the eggs, and later, the young fish, for the next few months. They are very vigorous in their defense of the nest--biting intruders (including humans) and even propelling themselves out of the water. This flurry of activity stirs up the water enough to hide the young fish, which scatter for cover.

Young bowfin eat phytoplankton, zooplankton, and insects. The adults, however, are voracious consumers of fish, although they will also eat crayfish, small rodents, snakes, turtles, and leeches.

Because of its tendency to eat other fish, including desirable game fish, the bowfin is not generally appreciated by anglers. Yet it is an important part of the ecosystem--it inhabits waters generally populated by panfish or nongame fishes, and its performs the population control necessary to prevent stunting. (See the pumpkinseed description for more information about stunting.) In Fishes of Wisconsin, George Becker states, "The bowfin is frequently part of the fish fauna in many excellent sport and panfish waters in Wisconsin. In fact, the quality of such waters may be attributable in part to the presence of this species."
 
I'm guessing you haven't seen my girlfriend catch the big one from piking at the islands huh?

let me get you a few pictures.
 
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If I remember correctly, we weighed this fish and it was over 5 lbs.... it was 2 or 3 years ago.
 
frozenfire said:
I'm guessing you haven't seen my girlfriend catch the big one from piking at the islands huh?

let me get you a few pictures.
Thanks "Frozenfire" !!!
awesome fish! congrads!....i am very impressed!
did the fish put up a good fight?
were there any handling problems?
was it as unique an experience as i expect it was?
thanks for your reply...wicked : :D
 
well...out of all the pike we caught that day... i think it was close to 10 or maybe more...it sure fought better than all of them!
Fish is pure muscle and a fantastic jumper!!!
My gf had all the fun of fighting it and I had teh fun of taking the xrap out of it's teeth filled mouth!
 
frozenfire said:
well...out of all the pike we caught that day... i think it was close to 10 or maybe more...it sure fought better than all of them!
Fish is pure muscle and a fantastic jumper!!!
My gf had all the fun of fighting it and I had teh fun of taking the xrap out of it's teeth filled mouth!
You have certainly captured my imagination and given me some hope that i may have a chance to catch one...
at least i now know for sure it was a bowfin i saw and that they can be caught at the islands....great!
so from the landing experience you had it sounds as if i had better let my fishing buddy and netmaster Kearney do the dirty work of unhooking the sinister monster...lol...sorry Kearney...
guess i gotta catch one .....
again thanks for your reply...let your gf know i was impressed with her fishing skills...your lucky to have a gf who fishes that well and enjoys fishing.
peace
 
She has no problem holding that bowfin!
It was her favourite fish... I'm sure it still is hehe.

The only problem she has is dead fish. She snagged a dead carp at the islands and literally freaked out and dropped the rod!!!
 
YAWN said:
Thats a nasty looking fish never new they were there dam!

You'd be surprised! Bowfin are everywhere!

They are capable of living in a wide range of conditions. Be it temperature or oxygen levels. They have the capability of taking in air directly from the surface and can survive for a lot longer out of water than most other fish.
 
frozenfire said:
She has no problem holding that bowfin!
It was her favourite fish... I'm sure it still is hehe.

The only problem she has is dead fish. She snagged a dead carp at the islands and literally freaked out and dropped the rod!!!


hahaha i can soooo see that happening,lol.
 
The island gets more intresting all the time I deff don't put enough time in over there.

Good place for a day tourney for the board?
 
frozenfire said:
YAWN said:
Thats a nasty looking fish never new they were there dam!

You'd be surprised! Bowfin are everywhere!

They are capable of living in a wide range of conditions. Be it temperature or oxygen levels. They have the capability of taking in air directly from the surface and can survive for a lot longer out of water than most other fish.

this is true about them being so widespread but they're esiest to catch in water temp of high twenties
 
my first spring fish and its a bowfin...this year's bucket list fish.... 8)
i looked hard for them...i found one and messed up catching it....kearney got to try to catch the next one we located...he is much better at getting fish to take the bait than i am. kearney caught it...see gta fish reports.
i found another...and caught it....pics to follow this week when i get them developed.poor kearney had to net and unhook and pose with fish...he should of read the above article to understand what he was in for....the fish lept out of his hands at me...i am happy to have caught the fish but its evil looking in many ways....it freaks me out a bit...kinda like snakes or eels which i caught when i was a 6 year old and have been traumatized by ever since.
i have this feeling its been like christmas morning all day since we caught the fish....i feel we have our confidence back....we fish damn well as a team!!! pike season is a week away and were ready for alot of catch/ pics /release.
the fish may be smarter than us but not more passionate about the game than us.
ps thanks again to frozenfire for advice, background info and inspiration to search out this fish...
and frozenfire i again cannot stress how impressed i am with your fishing partner's bravery and skills....many of us wish we were as fortunate as you to find a girlfriend who will fish like she does with you.hope you have a terrific fishing year!
 
i caught one of those at keswick two weeks ago!
creepy fish fore sure, felt more like a snake than a fish 8)
 
I've caught lot's of Bowfin near Kingston in both Lower Beverly and Lyndhurst lake. Fun to catch, here's a pic of my biggest so far 4.11lbs
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Here's a smaller 3.11lb one also:
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I went to this location for 2 weeks last year and caught about 5 while bass fishing. Hopefully not many are in Toronto.
 
disspatcher said:
I assume you ate the bowfins?

God no, the one on the scale went back into the water but the bigger one my uncle took to eat.(Not a normal guy lol)

He doesn't fry them like walleye or panfish but he does something else with the meat, apparently he likes it :lol: Why, would you think they taste good, it would probably be best to start taking them home for dinner.
 

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