Catching salmon on empty hook?

[ChromeAddict]

Try a lure that runs under the surface, top water lures don't really work well for migratories. Also, the salmon run hasn't started in the rivers yet. Try again in a few weeks and there will be more fish.

 

[ihtus]

Also, the salmon run hasn't started in the rivers yet.

I will try, thanks.
The fish is there already, almost got one at xyz creek (on eggs) this saturday

 

[ChromeAddict]

Right on!

 

[AKnook]

Top water flies catch salmon, just not as effective but it is sure is fun. Coho and chum salmon are a favourite salmon species to target on top water flies.

 

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Top water flies catch salmon, just not as effective but it is sure is fun. Coho and chum salmon are a favourite salmon species to target on top water flies.

yea yea yea.....you alaskans with your 5 species of salmon to catch.......hahaha

 

[miles]

If you put your mind to it you could possibly take a salmon on a dry here, maybe even on a lake ontario trib because of the concentration of fish and how close you could get it to them. Lake Huron fish might be a better bet but there are not nearly as many fish but the huron fish act much more like a ocean run fish than lake ontario ones for the most part. They stay chrome much longer and the males will often willingly strike 50+ km up stream, hens rarely seem to strike that far up river. Often fish taken within a few km of the lake are dime fresh.

If you want good salmon action on a lake O trib head to the Niagara where there is actually some water and one hell of a fight. Repeatedly crashing a presentation into the faces of a bunch of dark fish stacked up in a couple feet of water isn't nearly is fun as having a fish pound a big bag or lure in deep water imo

 

[rick james]

If you put your mind to it you could possibly take a salmon on a dry here, maybe even on a lake ontario trib because of the concentration of fish and how close you could get it to them. Lake Huron fish might be a better bet but there are not nearly as many fish but the huron fish act much more like a ocean run fish than lake ontario ones for the most part. They stay chrome much longer and the males will often willingly strike 50+ km up stream, hens rarely seem to strike that far up river. Often fish taken within a few km of the lake are dime fresh.

If you want good salmon action on a lake O trib head to the Niagara where there is actually some water and one hell of a fight. Repeatedly crashing a presentation into the faces of a bunch of dark fish stacked up in a couple feet of water isn't nearly is fun as having a fish pound a big bag or lure in deep water imo

I agree with DitchWizard, in my experience for whatever reason Lake Huron fish are more likely to strike. However, I've also had good fortune enticing Lake Ontario fish to strike so I don't buy the argument that they won't strike, it is simply not true.

 

[michaelPhillips]

Hello all this is my first post here

Pacific and Atlantic Salmon in rivers not matter how late will strike presentations out of aggression and territorial displays. Here's some late season coho pursuing streamers from a large distance in gin clear water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrVdC-fX3b4

As for Atlantic salmon "New science shows examples of eating behaviour among up to 40 % of the adult salmon in the region of Northern Norway. In some rivers salmon diet would include both land and water insects."

http://www.fishmadman.com/do-salmon-eat-in-the-river/

Link to source article and study above

 

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Lake Huron fish bite more readily imo because of lack of food source in the lake, the size difference of fish between the two lakes is pretty great, you catch a 20-25lb fish on Huron and you stand a very good chance at winning a derby, vs the 35-40lb needed to win a derby on Lake Ontario.

Salmon have been reported eating crayfish in Huron, not a natural prey item for them

 

[miles]

I'm not saying dark salmon in creeks don't hit I'm saying the vast majority of anglers fishing are flossing or snagging.

As far as huron salmon go they seem much different than lake O salmon, when we catch them within a few km of the lake they are often chrome fish, so much so it could have been taken in 200' of water. What is really interesting is that when we catch then incidentally 50+ km up river targeting steelhead they rarely get as dark as lake O salmon do, even the dead ones that wash up on the shore still have some silver to them. I believe that water has a lot to do with it, the lake o ditches have lethal temps and to many fish while huron tribs often have goon conditions with high o2 and low temp after a rain in september. FF also raises a good point that huron salmon are for the most part jacks and not fully mature salmon.

 

[chinooky]

The Huron fish are definitely shinier than the Lake O fish. I don't think it has anything to do with water temps though because even in open water at this time they already have some colour.

Anyway I'm not sure if they running salmon really eat but they definitely bite

 

[riverrat]

If you fish with beads your catching salmon or trout on an empty hook and salmon bite out of aggression

 

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If you fish with beads your catching salmon or trout on an empty hook and salmon bite out of aggression

technically yes, however, you are using a bead as an attractant thats less than 2" from the hook, the OP was talking about just a bare hook

 

[Knuguy]

FF also raises a good point that huron salmon are for the most part jacks and not fully mature salmon.

Not true at all. Many mature salmon run up the Notty and Beaver for e.g.

 

[tcp]

LOOGAN!!!!!

 

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[miles]

Not true at all. Many mature salmon run up the Notty and Beaver for e.g.

*jacks compared the Lake ontario salmon. yes they spawn

 

[Knuguy]

*jacks compared the Lake ontario salmon. yes they spawn

You did say there weren't mature. That's the part I was correcting. No doubt they are smaller.

 

[miles]

You did say there weren't mature. That's the part I was correcting. No doubt they are smaller.

You understood that I was getting at and are only mincing words.

 

[miles]