Goby invasive?

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Here are two other fish that can be mistaken for goby. Both darters and log perch are caught with a hook and line.

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gobies are shorter and wider than the darter and log perch. Their eyes are more googley too.
 
i caught tons at belwood dam in fergus and grand bend... annoying little suckers as as soon as you drop the worm, they're on it. i feel bad now, but i was so frustrated, i hooked it and threw it back and pulled in a pike... never again...
 
I killed 14 of them today at the islands lol, they are very aggressive fish and once they bite, they are hooked for sure, I kind a just stomp them to death with one stomp, the way you would kill an ant, then I threw them all into the garbage can so they won't get eaten by other fish and intoxicated.
 
Everyone needs to start somewhere, I dont expect people to read the entire reg book before they learn how to fish. Thats more something that comes with time, the first year I fished I remember catching fish that I couldnt even identify (like my first walleye lol). Im sure many anglers that taught themselves can relate to that, now i know better.

As for my preferred method of euthanizing gobies I like to twirl my rod in the air a few times to build up speed and then smack it off a rock lol. A little less messy on the shoes...
 
Seriously, kill the invasive fish / gobies. I really wonder if the MNR thinks that if everyone killed every goby they caught it would make any sort of a difference. Let's think about invasive species, carp invaded our waters years ago and they aren't leaving anytime soon. ( not that I have anything against fighting a 20 lb carp.) I can't even count how many carp I have come across over the years that have been left to die on the shore by fishermen. Sea lamprey appeared around the '70's I believe and the Ministry made a great effort at a cost of many dollars to eradicate them. Fish are still being caught in the Great Lakes with lamprey scars, I see lamprey all the time wading Bronte Creek, the Credit River and other tribs of the Great Lakes. From all reports it sounds like the Asian Carp is now in Lake Michigan and they are a very prolific fish. Another prolific fish the Asian Snakehead is now in New York state can it be far from the Great Lakes? Zebra mussles? Ruin the water quality for native fish, at least gobies eat them, but they also eat the eggs of native fish like Bass, Walleye and Perch. Seems to me the responsible party for all the "invasive species" would be man-kind. I'm just saying, we did it, not the fish. The people who caused these things should be held responsible. The Carps and Gobies of the world are just doing their own thing, they didn't chose to be here.
Let's not forget the other "invasive species" in Ontario waters. This would include all Pacific Salmon, Rainbow and Brown Trout as well as Steelhead. All of which are known for eating each others eggs, that would be why roe is such a good bait.
By all means kill any Goby you catch, I do. But what good does it really do besides fertilizing a very small piece of land. At least the guys who were killing carp 30 years ago were fertilizing a bigger chunk of land.
We're stuck with these invasive species. We gotta live with it.
That said, having lived in Alberta and a frequent visitor to B.C. when I was there. Could we get Dollys and Cut-throat Trout here as our next invasive fish? :)

Alfie.
 
It may be an endless battle, but the way I see it is you can at least control the population to some small extent. Unfortunately common carp arent technically classified as an invasive species (although they are incredibly invasive, the regulation is currently under review) so common carp must be released(I wont tell if you dont release it lol). But with other invasives like gobies and snakeheads not releasing them means that one more fish wont breed and one more fish wont eat eggs.
 
NADO said:
It may be an endless battle, but the way I see it is you can at least control the population to some small extent. Unfortunately common carp arent technically classified as an invasive species (although they are incredibly invasive, the regulation is currently under review) so common carp must be released(I wont tell if you dont release it lol). But with other invasives like gobies and snakeheads not releasing them means that one more fish wont breed and one more fish wont eat eggs.
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Excuse me but common carp are indeed an invasive species, they have become entrenched now because they have been here for so long, but the carp is not a native North American fish. I don't really care what the regs say. Anyone who has been around Cootes Paradise in Hamilton for 40 years can see the destruction they can cause in a very fragile eco-system. Cootes used to be like a nursery for freshly hatched fish with all the weeds to hide out in and avoid predators.. Carp have uprooted all the vegetation and now there is no place for baby fish to hide out. The pike and bass are no longer there. I commend the Royal Botanical Gardens with their effort to control the carp, but it's not working completely. I will probably see many and maybe even catch one or two not long after 5 a.m. tomorrow morning. Any I catch will be released, but they will be released on the Harbor side of the carp barrier (LOL)

Alfie.
 
Hi all

I just found this site, USGS (United States Geological Society), they are tracking the goby and where people are catching/finding them. It won't lead to their eradication but it shows how the gobies have spread.
Maybe it would lead to stiffer fines for European ships dumping their ballast in our Great Lakes; or at least make them aware of the damage they have caused. I've already added my sightings. Here is the link.

http://nas.er.usgs.gov/taxgroup/fish/roundgobydistribution.aspx

Good fishing all.
 
halleb said:
Man, this is basic stuff , you should know this before you go fishing
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I had a complaint before about killing invasive fish, thus just to be safe I wanted to make sure. I released the one in the picture but killed 14 of them the next time I went. To be honest you could go fishing with some children targeting these gobies for fun to get rid of them
 
NADO said:
Everyone needs to start somewhere, I dont expect people to read the entire reg book before they learn how to fish. Thats more something that comes with time, the first year I fished I remember catching fish that I couldnt even identify (like my first walleye lol). Im sure many anglers that taught themselves can relate to that, now i know better.

As for my preferred method of euthanizing gobies I like to twirl my rod in the air a few times to build up speed and then smack it off a rock lol. A little less messy on the shoes...
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I must have laughed at this for 5mins straight :)
 
Alfiegee said:
Excuse me but common carp are indeed an invasive species, they have become entrenched now because they have been here for so long, but the carp is not a native North American fish. I don't really care what the regs say. Anyone who has been around Cootes Paradise in Hamilton for 40 years can see the destruction they can cause in a very fragile eco-system. Cootes used to be like a nursery for freshly hatched fish with all the weeds to hide out in and avoid predators.. Carp have uprooted all the vegetation and now there is no place for baby fish to hide out. The pike and bass are no longer there. I commend the Royal Botanical Gardens with their effort to control the carp, but it's not working completely. I will probably see many and maybe even catch one or two not long after 5 a.m. tomorrow morning. Any I catch will be released, but they will be released on the Harbor side of the carp barrier (LOL)

Alfie.
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Steelhead compete for the same baitfish as native populations.
 

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