How do i get my spoon deeper?

[AaronKrick]

I will be fishing for salmon tommorrow and need advice on how to get my spoon near the bottom. The water is 20-40ft deep. It is from a peir.

Cat

 

[staffman]

Either count it down 1,2,3,...35 or add split shot a couple of feet above the spoon. Another option would be a wolfe river rig where you tie a 3 way swivel say 3 ft above your spoon ,then tie a 1 or 2 ft piece of lighter mono to the third eye and add a bell sinker to the end.

 

[AaronKrick]

Either count it down 1,2,3,...35 or add split shot a couple of feet above the spoon. Another option would be a wolfe river rig where you tie a 3 way swivel say 3 ft above your spoon ,then tie a 1 or 2 ft piece of lighter mono to the third eye and add a bell sinker to the end.

Ive tried the three way rig and i got tangled alot

 

[AaronKrick]

Thanks Staffman

Cat

 

[Garfield the cat]

What spoons are you using ?? Just let it sink. Be patient an wait

 

[hightechdecks]

add sticky weight or use an inline trolling weight

 

[Rain-Bow]

3/4 oz cleos

 

[Dugger]

anyone use rubber core sinkers anymore??? those puppies are perfect for that job

 

[grubman]

Do an experiment, in 6 ft of water drop your lure in and count how long it takes to hit bottom. Now you know how long it takes to sink 1 fathom. Cast out, take up slack, wait for it to sink to the depth you want. This will give you an approximate depth.

Good luck.

 

[Dugger]

Do an experiment, in 6 ft of water drop your lure in and count how long it takes to hit bottom. Now you know how long it takes to sink 1 fathom. Cast out, take up slack, wait for it to sink to the depth you want. This will give you an approximate depth.

Good luck.

Grubs my friend, 1910 called and it wants its "fathom" back.... good god man! Fathom!!!!

 

[FishingNoob]

Grubs my friend, 1910 called and it wants its "fathom" back.... good god man! Fathom!!!!

I had to look it up.

 

[AaronKrick]

Grubs my friend, 1910 called and it wants its "fathom" back.... good god man! Fathom!!!!

I looked it up on wikipedia! :grin:

Cat

 

[AaronKrick]

Thanks for the advice guys

Cat

 

[grubman]

Grubs my friend, 1910 called and it wants its "fathom" back.... good god man! Fathom!!!!

Yeah I'm old so bite my irritated anus.......lol. :razz: 6'=1 fathom is easier to measure with your rod then 10'. Did'nt you ever see 30,000 Leagues Under The Sea? The original with Kirk Douglas. One of my my fave flicks.

 

[Blair]

Yeah I'm old so bite my irritated anus.......lol. :razz: 6'=1 fathom is easier to measure with your rod then 10'. Did'nt you ever see 30,000 Leagues Under The Sea? The original with Kirk Douglas. One of my my fave flicks.

 

[Blair]

anyone use rubber core sinkers anymore??? those puppies are perfect for that job

" Sometimes" I use them down at DALHOUSIE!
* Now that you have reminded me, I have to go out and get some more.

 

[fishfight]

used Heavier bigger spoon to start with, or add weights 2-3" above your lure. I glued penny to make my spoon get deeper . check images on one of my post entitled "Lost but got my lure back ".

I drill holes on light crank bait , then add any thing inside to make it heavier , then seal the hole with a glue gun.

Putting time in is one of the key factor in getting hits, assuming fish is not too active at that moment. If there are limited anglers around, casting few times on one spot then move in sectional increments, let say move 8 ft increments each time , applying slow retrieve, then stop for few seconds, then retrieve again, then go back to where you started. I landed fish on any lures at times due to hard work and determination.

Before I even make my first cast, I would first scout how deep the area by dropping my lure right close to where I would be fishing, counting how many seconds it takes to reach the bottom. I would then cast at the maximum distance my lure would go, and do the same, count the number of seconds before it reaches the bottom. This will help me estimate how long I want my lure to be close to the bottom during my retrieve or how high I want my lure to be.

How slow of a retrieve one should apply when fish are not active? I would apply half a turn on my reel handle.....yank the rod by a ft........stop for 2-3 seconds......then turn my reel handle again by half turn......Why this slow? Let us imagine you are a predator fish who is not too hungry, you see a bait fish 6-10ft away moving straight against you, as you approach to investigate, if the bait fish continue to move away consistently on a steady pace, Would you want to go after it? Probably not. Based on your past experience, since by the time you approach the bait fish, it will dart away and try to escape, causing you to lose unnecessary energy. Now imagine the opposite, you being a predator, you witness an ailing bait fish not moving away on a straight line, as you approach to investigate, the ailing bait fish darts up and down, only move on a short distance and stop, sometimes it even move backward( by allowing your rod to fall away from you to allow the lure to drop backward ). Now as you approach closer to the ailing prey....there seem to be no obvious motion that your prey can dart away that easily, your instinct was this is an easy meal, your mind made up and you go for it.

I also hold my rod with a light grip so I can feel the lure action and its water surroundings, how light do I hold my rod handle? A 1/2 lb bass will be able to yank my 7' rod backward when it hits, once I feel the hit sensation different from the lure hitting some debris or weeds or current, that is the only time I yank and set the hook, I reset it again 2 to 3 times to ensure proper hook set. We need to imagine if we were an ailing bait fish, how would we be moving underwater?

I always tell other anglers that to catch a fish, we have to think like a fish! Mature bigger fish are like human adults, we do not have time to eat mini meals many times a day? One or two big meal a day is enough for us. While smaller fish are like growing teens that have lot of energy to burn, they will eat more often, small meals and snacks, here and there, all throughout the day.

 

[Dugger]

Yeah I'm old so bite my irritated anus.......lol. :razz: 6'=1 fathom is easier to measure with your rod then 10'. Did'nt you ever see 30,000 Leagues Under The Sea? The original with Kirk Douglas. One of my my fave flicks.

LOL!!!!!! hmmmm good movie and... Jason and the Argonauts, Journey to the Centre of the Earth (with James Mason)...

I'm still crying over "fathoms" LOL!!!!

are you wearing a Greek fisherman's cap and white woolen sweater, beard, plotting charts.... ?

 

[Dugger]

" Sometimes" I use them down at DALHOUSIE!
* Now that you have reminded me, I have to go out and get some more.

Say hi to Old Man Rooker.... Blair and his Browns!

 

[FishingNoob]

Yeah I'm old so bite my irritated anus.......lol. :razz: 6'=1 fathom is easier to measure with your rod then 10'. Did'nt you ever see 30,000 Leagues Under The Sea? The original with Kirk Douglas. One of my my fave flicks.

:lol: That is a good movie!