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I have been timing my trips according to the moon phase for years. I do notice that there is higher activity that matches some calanders, some others miss it completely. Have I been missing the big fish? I've tried The Old Farmer's Almanac and a few others. They should all correspond to the same dates for a given area but some don't. Last week I downloaded Moonphase 3.3 it's freeware.

http://www.freewarefiles.com/Moonphase_program_9676.html

Which do you use, if any? Who's more accurate?

Just wanted to know what your views, experiences or if you consider weather/barometer more important.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion so let's keep it cordial and informative.

Thanks to all who reply. Blue cheese anyone?...lol :rolleyes:
 
I use an APP on my iPhone called MoonTrack, works great. Gives me moon and sun, rise and set times, and current phase. I do find the fishing to be good around full and new moon.

Check the weather for temps and wind but not as big of a factor for me. Today was full moon and fishing was decent yesterday. Slow this morning.

Dirk
 
I use an APP on my iPhone called MoonTrack, works great. Gives me moon and sun, rise and set times, and current phase. I do find the fishing to be good around full and new moon.

Check the weather for temps and wind but not as big of a factor for me. Today was full moon and fishing was decent yesterday. Slow this morning.

Dirk

I just got back from fishing and it was ok for Sunday, but today it was very slow even with the full moon. A cold front moved in Sunday night and I think that had alot to do with it. This morning was still slow almost dead, not even the pesky rock bass were biting.

Do you ever go out during 1/4 or 1/2 moon? Its been a very long while for me, maybe I'll give that a shot since the moon phase is'nt working for me atleast.

Thanks for replying. :grin:
 
No I never go out during 1/4 or 1/2. I have caught my 2 biggest bass on Rice Lake both during full moon periods. Both were caught casting a black Jitterbug at around midnight on full moons. Next time you get a full moon and the water is calm, try casting a Jitterbug, you might just be surprised. This past weekend conditions were ideal on Saturday night, calm water and full moon but I never tried, to tired from work and beers.

Where were you fishing this past weekend? What were you using?

Dirk
 
No I never go out during 1/4 or 1/2. I have caught my 2 biggest bass on Rice Lake both during full moon periods. Both were caught casting a black Jitterbug at around midnight on full moons. Next time you get a full moon and the water is calm, try casting a Jitterbug, you might just be surprised. This past weekend conditions were ideal on Saturday night, calm water and full moon but I never tried, to tired from work and beers.

Where were you fishing this past weekend? What were you using?

Dirk

On Sunday about 5pm it was still sunny with a breeze. I was on the windward shore near a weed bed in Trenton. I was using a pumkinseed grub when I caught both of these. Something very big nailed my lure just before I caught these and broke my line. The action was not too bad, some other guys were doing better with lots of bluegills and 1 LMB that afternoon. Then at about 7pm a cold front moved in with light rain and all the fish stopped biting up until the time I left Monday noon. Normally I'll fish till 1 am then sleep and start again in the morning but Monday was cloudy and cool. I tried Gulp leech, different grubs, feather jig with worms and plain worms, still nothing. The LMB was about 1 1/2 Lb., small enough eating size. Seems like all the fish shut down due to the front.
I'll have to try that black Jitter bug at night for bass. What did you use to get the walleye in your post? My boat's not running so I'm stuck on shore this year. Thanks for the tip.
 

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I caught that walleye drop shoting a Fat Slammer made by XZone Lures. Give them a try they are killer. Although you are limited for fish when fishing from shore. There are a couple of decent shore spots on Rice Lake if you don't know of them already. East end of lake, one on south shore, one on north shore. PM for details.

Dirk
 
Frank25 and I just got back from fishing Scugog. According to a couple of the moon phase calendars that I use, Sat should have been a poor day. It started out cold and cloudy but we were optimistic. True to the calendars fishing in the morning was poor, that is until the sun came out after noon, the change was like night and day. The big fish were not biting but all the panfish did become very active in some locations. It's a quarter moon today which is suppose to be less then optimum conditions. For several hours in the afternoon the panfish were actively taking our offerings, even more when changed to live worms. 2 perch of 12" long hit our plastic grubs But Frank caught 2 LMBs I got pics on his thread. Good size bass, they were his first ever and no rock bass as he was only able to catch on previous outings so he's happy with his catch.

It would seem that the local weather had a greater effect. If the weather is favorable during the moon phase then the fishing should be hot. This is what you and Joel52 have been saying. Thanks for all your and Joel's tips.
 
I think the barometer has a greater effect than the moon phase. I've had really good days on the quarter, and really slow days on the full moon - but the barometer was bang on. That cold front last week just slowed everything down, though there were still walleye coming in - but bass and pike were all but turned off and lots of work to get something to chase anything - we usually caught smaller fish when any. So I would say weather/barometer are the two biggest factors for me. Another consideration is the season. There could be a hatch going on that just messes everything up, no matter what. We see this with the shad/mayflies in the late spring. In the fall when the water cools down enough, the fish will switch from worms and leeches to minnows. Fall fishing is a good time to get into something big as those guys are on the prowl looking to bulk up for the winter months.
 
I think the barometer has a greater effect than the moon phase. I've had really good days on the quarter, and really slow days on the full moon - but the barometer was bang on. That cold front last week just slowed everything down, though there were still walleye coming in - but bass and pike were all but turned off and lots of work to get something to chase anything - we usually caught smaller fish when any. So I would say weather/barometer are the two biggest factors for me. Another consideration is the season. There could be a hatch going on that just messes everything up, no matter what. We see this with the shad/mayflies in the late spring. In the fall when the water cools down enough, the fish will switch from worms and leeches to minnows. Fall fishing is a good time to get into something big as those guys are on the prowl looking to bulk up for the winter months.

I'm beginning to see this now. I guess I was blinded by the moon phases but did not understand why I still got skunked. Even when I faced a cold front, I still had faith in the moon's position alone. But now I see you are correct about the weather/barometer. I have a cheap portable digital weather station I got from Canadian Tire. I will be following that in the future.

I was told by a Trenton local, that in late Oct the walleye are in 5-10 feet of water and will bite just about anything, is that right? The eyes come close to shore to pig out on everything/anything before the onset of winter. I sure would'nt mind a pike or two either. Like shooting fish in a barrel......lol.

Will any size of minnow do or is there a certain size? Last fall, I tried the small 6 cm and nothing. I had them on a floating jig with a drop shot, walking sinker but no takers.

Thanks Joel.
 
As the water cools down they move in - where I was last week we were still using worms, but the water was 65. When it drops to about 50 up there is when they switch to minnows but there were two guys in this boat using both and catching fish on both. I don't know a lot about where you're fishing. I used to fish Pigeon Lake years ago for walleye and I would catch them (and the odd musky) on a 4" gold Rapala with a white belly. I would put a few drop shots ahead of it so it swam just below the surface and jerk bait it in about 10' of water - worked like a charm. That was fishing weedbeds from a boat about 40-50' from shore.
 
Joel: Some guys I used to go with used 13 cm(5") raps in orange/gold at night on the surface. I'll have to try your method and Dirk's and get some of them Slammers. I never measured the water temp tho. By late Oct the water should be about 50C or less in Trenton area.

Meppsman: I was there when the cold front moved in then, nothing bites moon or no moon. The next day sunny and windy but cool, no bites not even the panfish. That was my experience anyway.. Thanks for your input, but do you have more details of your moon related experiences?
 
INTERESTING FACTS

The moon rises and sets at specific times, according to what phase it is in.

The new moon rises and sets at approximately the same time as the sun.

The first quarter moon rises at mid-morning and sets at midnight. So it's at its height around dusk, not in the middle of the night.

The full moon rises at sunset and sets at sunrise. The full moon is the only moon that will be overhead in the middle of the night.

The last quarter moon rises around midnight and sets around mid-morning. So unless you're a late-owl, you've probably never even seen this moon.


For those fishermen and hunters who enjoy fishing and hunting at sunrise and sunset here are the absolute best dates to be on the water at your favorite spot.

These are the Major or Minor Solunar Periods that fall near the times of Sunrise or Sunset during a Full or New Moon.

It has been documented that when this condition exists fish will bite on anything they see or smell. Limits are almost guaranteed provided there are fish in the vicinity.

It’s no secret that fish and game tend to feed during dawn and dusk (sunrise and sunset). What amplifies the activity is the effect of a moonrise or moonset plus the specific monthly

periods of New (dark) and Full (light) Moons.

When the times coincide with a moon-rise or a moon-set the action can be spectacular. Finally, a change in the local weather coinciding with the periods will further enhance the activity.

NIGHT FISHING

When you fish during the day, bass can see all your moves and as a fisherman you need to be as natural as possible and be quiet and stealthy. This means we need to be invisible by using a trolling motor or an anchor instead of stirring up the water. Bass can see the action of your lures and the colours that you have chosen.

At night bass feel secure under the cover of darkness. Night fishing hides our mistakes and makes it easier to trick them with our devious ways. At night they don’t see but they are willing to accept baits even if they don’t look or feel natural. Their color vision goes down at night and you need to make the strongest presentation to them. The best color at night is black because it’s presents the darkest, most contrasting effect, and a silhouette so to speak. Another factor to watch out for at night is the current moon phase.

Even when the stars and moon are out there is still enough light to see what you are doing. After you have done it long enough, you will realize that when you reel your lure in and you raise your rod tip up and hold it up to the sky, you can see how far your bait is hanging off the end of your rod, and whether or not you are all tangled up. Believe me that has happened many times.

My 2 biggest bass on Rice Lake. The first case was at the beginning of August of 2009, less than 2 days after the full moon (96% Waning Gibbous).

The second case was in early October of 2009, less than 2 days before the full moon (97% Waxing Gibbous). Both of these smallmouth bass were caught using a Jitterbug surface lure. There is something about fishing in the dead calm of night and listening to the distinctive gurgling sounds the Jitterbug makes as it paddles across the surface, just waiting for a splash and explosion from an unsuspecting fish. My best luck has been around midnight at this time of year. By that time of night the water has settled down and is completely calm and the fish have started to feed. On both occasions I remember feeling a thump and you felt weight on the end of the line and you crank back and set the hook and enjoy the fight and memory of a lifetime.

Night fishing for bass will be something I continue to do for many years to come.

Dirk
 
Thanks so much for all that information. Most of which I never knew before, I'd just look up the charts and go. Looks like I have been fishing Helter Skelter like. No consideration as to weather conditions, time of year, other positions of the moon.....etc. Even what lures or baits to use.

Thanks again.
 

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