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call the MNR tomorrow and ask directly. at least 1000 people lurk on the site reading these information, and nothing is more dangerous than misinformation. find out. write a long email to MNR asking this question and post the official answer once answered. dont randomly say stuff you don't have proof of. in the court no one will care what a CO says to you on the river. but if it is written as bi law then they have to follow proper procedure.
 
ChasinTails said:
So I can gut my limits worth of salmon and chuck them on the shore?
He told me as long as you dispose of them in a proper way, all is well... So It didn't take me long, but if you look at the MNR website under this link, http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/LetsFish/2ColumnSubPage/199168.html

It says right at the bottom, REMEMBER: It is illegal to destroy, or to allow to spoil, fish which have been caught and which are suitable for food.

Key word being suitable, thats kind of like saying you don't have to eat brussel sprouts if the come from lake Ontario or are pitch black, covered in mold and mushy. Lol. I'm not really saying I agree with it, it's kind of why i kill a lot less fish then I used to and only kill fresher looking salmon for the smoker if nothing else.

Also If you look on this page...
http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@ene/@resources/documents/resource/std01_078664.pdf

You'll see that you basically can't eat any salmon over 28" out of the main lake... Does anyone else find it strange that you can't eat any salmon over a certain length in the main lake, then they specifically mention the ganny and the credit and up the size of consumable fish??? Lol. It's almost like they want to kill off all the loogans!

Sorry if some of my facts aren't solid, I'm very tired and am not sure what I have wrote to this point.

I'm going to try and get intouch with a warden tomorrow to further enlighten us all on this topic
 
you have good points but if a co, does catch you, hes gonna say, why the heck didnt you release it, if you didnt release it, obviously its good enough to eat for you and then good luck trying to prove him wrong in court, they are all nice when you ask, but when you catch them, its a different story, lol, i have seen guys busted for throwing fish out before and it didnt look pretty, (by the amount of money on the ticket) lol
 
Klik said:
call the MNR tomorrow and ask directly. at least 1000 people lurk on the site reading these information, and nothing is more dangerous than misinformation. find out. write a long email to MNR asking this question and post the official answer once answered. dont randomly say stuff you don't have proof of. in the court no one will care what a CO says to you on the river. but if it is written as bi law then they have to follow proper procedure.
Well said Klik
 
Chinook salmon are not native fish to our lakes! they were introduced along time ago and have exploded in population. they belong in the Pacific ocean not our great lakes.( i think it would be hard from them to migrate over the rockies through the parries and in to our lakes)

Atlantic salmon are the fish we should be seeing in our great lakes but number are so low they can not compete with the big chin hook!

chin hooks are annoying,
 
LogJam said:
Chinook salmon are not native fish to our lakes! they were introduced along time ago and have exploded in population. they belong in the Pacific ocean not our great lakes.( i think it would be hard from them to migrate over the rockies through the parries and in to our lakes)

Atlantic salmon are the fish we should be seeing in our great lakes but number are so low they can not compete with the big chin hook!

chin hooks are annoying,
Agree...but not as annoying than getting that perfect drift...floats down...you had a nice tug only to surface and it was a 'nook and you were expecting a brown...
 
Float down said:
He told me as long as you dispose of them in a proper way, all is well... So It didn't take me long, but if you look at the MNR website under this link, http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/LetsFish/2ColumnSubPage/199168.html

It says right at the bottom, REMEMBER: It is illegal to destroy, or to allow to spoil, fish which have been caught and which are suitable for food.

Key word being suitable, thats kind of like saying you don't have to eat brussel sprouts if the come from lake Ontario or are pitch black, covered in mold and mushy. Lol. I'm not really saying I agree with it, it's kind of why i kill a lot less fish then I used to and only kill fresher looking salmon for the smoker if nothing else.

Also If you look on this page...
http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@ene/@resources/documents/resource/std01_078664.pdf

You'll see that you basically can't eat any salmon over 28" out of the main lake... Does anyone else find it strange that you can't eat any salmon over a certain length in the main lake, then they specifically mention the ganny and the credit and up the size of consumable fish??? Lol. It's almost like they want to kill off all the loogans!


Sorry if some of my facts aren't solid, I'm very tired and am not sure what I have wrote to this point.

I'm going to try and get intouch with a warden tomorrow to further enlighten us all on this topic
^^this.

lake o trib meat is not edible lol it should not be considered wasting meat when the MNR says small children and pregnant women shouldnt eat it.... if you really dont want to "waste the meat" there is ALWAYS going to be someone around during salmon season who will happily take a nasty chinny carcass off your hands lol
 
Pause...Jerk said:
Agree...but not as annoying than getting that perfect drift...floats down...you had a nice tug only to surface and it was a 'nook and you were expecting a brown...
i know that feeling, they just get in the way lol
 
If you want roe keep the fish. Most DO NOT know how to properly milk a fish (even though most think they do) and improperly milking a fish causes serious internal damage and often leads to the demise of the fish. If you take the fish home and decide that the meat is not suitable for consumption, then use it as fertilizer, but don't toss it in the dumpster, and unless you REALLY know what you are doing, don't milk a fish.

The debate here seems to be focusing on what's legal and what's not when really it should focus on ethics. Both of these scenario's are unethical and therefore neither one should be practiced.
 
I dont care that Chinooks are non native, heck it was the first BIG fish I've ever caught, they're fun and without them the lake ecosystem would take a massive hit mainly because its lost its top predator, think of all the alewives and smelt that'll run around the lake and eat up all the plankton and all of that small food for other fish, I agree that they are not native but that dosent mean they're a bother but that's my 2 cents I can gaurantee you guys would love Chinooks if they simple turned around and headed home after coming into tribs and not simply dieing but that's just me
 
ChasinTails said:
I dont care that Chinooks are non native, heck it was the first BIG fish I've ever caught, they're fun and without them the lake ecosystem would take a massive hit mainly because its lost its top predator, think of all the alewives and smelt that'll run around the lake and eat up all the plankton and all of that small food for other fish, I agree that they are not native but that dosent mean they're a bother but that's my 2 cents I can gaurantee you guys would love Chinooks if they simple turned around and headed home after coming into tribs and not simply dieing but that's just me
Im sure all the stocked bows,browns,cohos,tics from all around the lake will eat the bait fish. Lake O would be just fine without chinook.
 
Im sure all the stocked bows,browns,cohos,tics from all around the lake will eat the bait fish. Lake O would be just fine without chinook.
the fishing wouldn't be as fun I know that
 
fishfearme said:
If you want roe keep the fish. Most DO NOT know how to properly milk a fish (even though most think they do) and improperly milking a fish causes serious internal damage and often leads to the demise of the fish. If you take the fish home and decide that the meat is not suitable for consumption, then use it as fertilizer, but don't toss it in the dumpster, and unless you REALLY know what you are doing, don't milk a fish.

The debate here seems to be focusing on what's legal and what's not when really it should focus on ethics. Both of these scenario's are unethical and therefore neither one should be practiced.
+1 on this post
 

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