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come on guys this is crazy....all you have to do is open up and talk with ppl....you will find ( if you are polite and approach the situation with a little class) most landowners and anglers will share their fish with you... Personally i rather have you standing beside me sharing a pool, drift for drift than 10 ft down river casting thier float right on top of mine as soon as it hits the ZUG ZONE.
 
I was referring to when Spinninreel has his spot blatently taken from him, i'm not sure a polite approach is the way to go in that situation...
 
Surely this must be situation dependent. e.g. on a busy river one cannot expect to have a popular spot all to themselves. Near the mouth of the Notty there's a marina which is quite popular. I have seen folks standing almost shoulder to shoulder w/o anybody getting too perturbed. Folks synchronize their drifts, for e.g. As a general rule I have found almost all fishermen polite---it's just the 'one in every crowd' phenomenon.
 
I have to agree with you, and if I added what I really have observed happening to our sport over the years on a public forum the government would have people knocking on my door, trying to send me to a course in an attempt to become multi cultural freindly.....Hmmmmmph, maybe the ont. gov should spend our money on more conservation officers, and judges who aren't afraid of the pathetic discrination excuses, instead of wasting it on these stupid attempts to force us to conform.
I love to fish the tribs for Salmon, and trout, but certainly don't enjoy the crap that alot of people dish out while attempting to make out they're sportsmen.
I started a thread a few weeks ago much like this one, after spending a weekday afternoon at Petro, where one doofus walked into a hole I was drifting, mere inches from my line and the fish i was trying to catch. "English" speaking people spotting me getting hits in another pool. calling the rest of their hood over, and forcing me and my buddy out of the spot by shouldering in on us.
This doesn't just happen on L Ontario tribs either. I remember one time on the Sauble river, my buddy and myself got there, and a couple of guys were having some pretty good luck on run just upstream from us. We stayed down from them, but never had any luck. The guys packed up, and left so we moved into they're spot. Nobody else was really around us. We started having some luck, and next thing we knew the run was packed shoulder to shoulder. All of a sudden this one arsehole with a probaby 20' rod steps in behind me, and starts fishing right over my head!!!! Ya, I said something!!!
This is the exact reason I hate fishing there during the fall salmon runs, majority of people there dont seem to know that fish run through all winter so winter fishing there is really nice, but fall runs are packed shoulder to shoulder. I just avoid the pools and runs closest to the parking lot.
 
I hear that... When ive been out the last couple seasons and I always make a point of saying "good morning...bla bla bla...nice day for fishing" to other anglers. I'm not much into the "any luck?" thing simply because most guys aren't eager to say "ya, I've had 4 today!"...
Anyway, this year I can't count the number of "English Speaking" anglers I've looked in the eye and said "Good Morning" to, only to have them turn their shoulder as if they are there Grocery Shopping. As if the next fish they catch is going to be their only means if eating ($600 pin setup in their hands)......
The reason I mention "English Speaking" is because some don't really know what I'm saying...so I move on...

When did fishing become so anti-social?
When I started fishing, I would spend as much time shootin' the schnit with others, having a smoke, talking fishing.... As I would fishing. Now I can't even get a head nod!

(I don't even fish GTA)

Cheers to those who realize they're fishing...not fighting for meat!

I've noticed this too and this is only my first year of steelheading. I usually say "Hey, hows it goin!" to just about everyone I walk by because its pretty much impossible for me not to say something. I feel awkward not to acknowledge another human being as I'm walking past them even with just a head nod is fine.

Fact is that most guys will either completely ignore me or give me the most disgusting look possible. I'm not talking during crowded runs either, this is when we are the only two people as far as the eye can see. Sometimes I feel like I'm about to be growled at. I honestly can't believe how depressed some of these people look while they're fishing. They miss the entire concept of the sport.

Even better then the angry guys are the guys with the $2,000 worth of equipment who think they can do just about whatever they want. They wont even acknowledge your existence and cast directly over your head. Not saying everyone with good equipment is like that though.

Whats happening to this world?
 
I've noticed this too and this is only my first year of steelheading. I usually say "Hey, hows it goin!" to just about everyone I walk by because its pretty much impossible for me not to say something. I feel awkward not to acknowledge another human being as I'm walking past them even with just a head nod is fine.

Fact is that most guys will either completely ignore me or give me the most disgusting look possible. I'm not talking during crowded runs either, this is when we are the only two people as far as the eye can see. Sometimes I feel like I'm about to be growled at. I honestly can't believe how depressed some of these people look while they're fishing. They miss the entire concept of the sport.

Even better then the angry guys are the guys with the $2,000 worth of equipment who think they can do just about whatever they want. They wont even acknowledge your existence and cast directly over your head. Not saying everyone with good equipment is like that though.

Whats happening to this world?


I wrote a nasty little post on the river culture. Regretted that post and it gave me a fresh perspective.

Maybe us inexperienced anglers are likely in the way of the more experienced (the simms wader mafia for example). I think the people who show little tolerance to the inexperienced, or those taking unconventional (yet legal) approaches to fishing their favorite streams, have forgotten that drift fishing is a skill that is difficult to learn and perfected -- for some of us anyways.

I had pinning guys yell at me for bottom bouncing streams. I told them to deal with it. I have also had the pinning guys help me out with setting up my shot lines and balancing floats. It just shows that there are all types wandering around these streams.

As for the unfriendly types. Forget them. They may not be up to speed with the rest of us, limited language skills, or losers with no friends.

It takes all types. Keep calm and carry on.
 
Sorry float...but whoever said fishing was an occasion for socializing (though, admittedly there are moments when you can share some time with a like minded angler)...I make for water and correspondingly takes me away from people and the grind...

The river is a microcosm of the everyday and as such you will find all manner of inappropriate behaviour...is what it is...there is a lot of water to be mined and fish populating the entire system...walk a bit and settle in...

cc
 
Hey if you like socializing, New York is always a good option:

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.............nahhh :lol:
 
ChaseChrome said:
Sorry float...but whoever said fishing was an occasion for socializing (though, admittedly there are moments when you can share some time with a like minded angler)...I make for water and correspondingly takes me away from people and the grind...

The river is a microcosm of the everyday and as such you will find all manner of inappropriate behaviour...is what it is...there is a lot of water to be mined and fish populating the entire system...walk a bit and settle in...

cc

well said, i fish to escape my busy little world, although i will say good morning or at least acknowledge that someone is talking to me in passing by. for me i'd rather find my own little piece of river to fish and enjoy the outdoors.

and all you dog walkers, keep your dogs on leash and out of my pools!
 
JMatt1983 said:
well said, i fish to escape my busy little world, although i will say good morning or at least acknowledge that someone is talking to me in passing by. for me i'd rather find my own little piece of river to fish and enjoy the outdoors.
X2.
I often fish the Grand with a friend of mine, once we hit the river we rarely see each other until it is time to go, 5 or 6 hrs later. We do keep in touch by text in case one of us finds a particularly hot-spot.
I do have enough class to acknowledge others I meet, even if they aren't so friendly.

Alfie.
 
Yes I'll give you an example. I catch a fish and geek boy fishes right where i was after i get a fish.
Funny cause the ass never got a fish after that. Or the famous once a year fisherman that thinks he is so cool with his buds. Your a wimp who needs attention, we realize that. Oh your a hero cause you caught a fish and you think you figured it all out. The famous dude who has expensive equip. I smoke these nut drifters all the time. Are ya still stunned??The look on their faces is priceless.. I just laugh. Realize who your makin fun of when you get outfished. Seriously I love the peace and solitude when I can to get away.Whether I catch fish or not. But isn't life comical??
 

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