Kleiner, it really is one of those places that have the fish but you just have to work hard for them. I live 40-1 hour away from scugog depending on weather and traffic. If there is a really rainy day or overcast with light showers, I am heading to scugog instead of a 3 hour drive anywhere else because it is close, and the musky go crazy during that weather on scugog. The bass can be a bit harder to find there but hard work pays off!