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correct me if im wrong, but ive heard the British pins are built for weaker fish like coarse fish and carp and cant take the power of chinnys and bows?
 
well 80lb carp i would not call a weak corae fish, or a 30lb pike. their resident trouts are bigger than ours, it is warmer there. anything except like, milner and islander that were made in BC were not meant for salmon anyways. you can fish with them, but why would you. 7lb trout can be caught on CT gear.
 
ChasinTails said:
lol klik nice try
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i really mean it, amazing reel. nothing except few customs and top end reel can even be put in the same league with stantons. they one of the 3 reels that were used 13 years ago. ang spec, islander and stanton. only solid reels they make now like a stanton, will cost you 700 before taxes.
 
The new British pins are specialized for carp stick floats, barbel and chub runs. However the old reels were made to be a work horse. Prior the reels were finicky like some of the reels today which can't run with any bit of dirt in them, they were made for the average guy who puts his stuff in the dirt everyonce in a while. Which can be attested by their long run, I know guys who are fishing reels from the early 80s because they know they can do anything they want with them and they will continue to perform
 
IR4JFlyfishing said:
The new British pins are specialized for carp stick floats, barbel and chub runs. However the old reels were made to be a work horse. Prior the reels were finicky like some of the reels today which can't run with any bit of dirt in them, they were made for the average guy who puts his stuff in the dirt everyonce in a while. Which can be attested by their long run, I know guys who are fishing reels from the early 80s because they know they can do anything they want with them and they will continue to perform
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redneckchromer said:
correct me if im wrong, but ive heard the British pins are built for weaker fish like coarse fish and carp and cant take the power of chinnys and bows?
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Weaker, no - Stanton's were relatively well built reels, but I never like them, I got rid of mine 20 years ago, couldn't stand it! If I had to choose between an okuma and a Stanton, I think if choose the okuma. To each there own, but when I sold my stanton, i was happy to see the end of it!
 
That's a steel CT. Besides steels turn a little darker once they stay longer upstream...But the one you got is a steel for sure. Keep your Raw reel...best bang for your buck. Don't get too technical with your gear. The more you obsess about it...the more it keeps you out of the water. I'm happy with my raw2...the rest of my $$$ will be on gas, lines, lures & baits...I will buy another float reel for my son. i'm looking at the new StreamSide...for less $200.
 
Klik said:
go return your raw, a broken stanton from 15 years ago is btter than any okuma crap.
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lol....that's a bit of a stretch klik. have you used an okuma float reel?
 
Klik has a point, you actually have to take care of the okumas to have them last. A buddy of mine has had two break on him but he loves it well it works. It's all personal preference
 
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lol....that's a bit of a stretch klik. have you used an okuma float reel?
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I'm not going to argue this point every time I say something about cheap reels and the okuma army starts beef. Centre pin is a very simple design from well over hundred years ago. All it needs is a big spool, two sets of bearings and spindle. Difference between top end and bottom end is the start up inertia and solidly the reel is built. Difference in engineering. If you have to at any point ever manually kick start you cp, it means you are in the low end category, the better made the faster it unwinds in the slowest of waters, including frog water. Now I have not fished it personally,but I've held it, casted with it. to me feels cheap,again though my first reel was a work horse stanton and my new reel is one of the best reelsmade. but I've seen people fish with it beside me many times, and seeing people kick start it with their finger discourages me to ever recommend it. Also the reels now, unless kp, islander or custom are not solidly made any more, they are mass produced so the masses can get an affordable reel and fast. Just wait couple of month before spring, save money, get an islander second handed for 300-350.
 
no argument needed. $200 reel can either be cheap to others but there are people who think its a good buy...it works and will land you fish under any circumstances...all of us when going to a tackle shop has a certain budget in mind. Heck buying my pin I have to think it through a lot before dropping $200 + plus being really really good at home good like when the wife steps into the house it was all shiny and bright. Do I think about upgrading? Maybe somewhere down the line but still being skeptical...maybe go for the sheffield (yes it's okuma)...I like the brand...in the end...heck it's been steady with the steels...
 
top end spinning reel does the same job as a cheap centerpin, plus the bonus of drag. if you have to manually mend your line, what is the point of a centerpin. i am starting to doubt people understand the true point of a centerpin. also some of the top end centerpins have drags. it is not about being drag free. anyways. i am not making any comment about this. to each their own.
 
Pause...Jerk said:
That's a steel CT. Besides steels turn a little darker once they stay longer upstream...But the one you got is a steel for sure. Keep your Raw reel...best bang for your buck. Don't get too technical with your gear. The more you obsess about it...the more it keeps you out of the water. I'm happy with my raw2...the rest of my $$$ will be on gas, lines, lures & baits...I will buy another float reel for my son. i'm looking at the new StreamSide...for less $200.
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the streamside vortex is an awesome cp, i have fished the okuma raw 2 and other okumas, and would definently have to say this reel beats most okumas, but good luck trying to find it anywhere almost every store is sold out, i found one, in orillia, in tromblys but that was the only place that wasnt sold out, its a good reel brand new on the market, very light, and not too expensive either.
 
BowSlayer said:
the streamside vortex is an awesome cp, i have fished the okuma raw 2 and other okumas, and would definently have to say this reel beats most okumas, but good luck trying to find it anywhere almost every store is sold out, i found one, in orillia, in tromblys but that was the only place that wasnt sold out, its a good reel brand new on the market, very light, and not too expensive either.
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well seeing that they had good feedback on their this new product. i'm sure they will have this go into production right before the opener....i would like to see it myself before I make the decision but yeah the price if it's as good or better than raw2. i'd consider it. thank you for your input.
 
theres nothing wrong with okuma reels. ive seen some of us okuma boys catch more fish than guys with high end reels, and ive been outfished by old timers with 30year old spinning reels lol . doesnt matter whats in ur hand, all that matters is whats in the water and how the fish see's it. sure it would be nice to buy an islander though, maybe one day ill have one, but for now ill spend my money on gas for getting to the river, oh and beads. lol
 

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