White meat salmon?

[FishingNoob]

Ontario chicken forums...

So do you use a shot line when fishing chickens?

Nah, I just use a fishing net and net em.

 

[AKnook]

A lot of people here in AK catch the white meat king salmon when ocean fishing for them. They are not spawning as they are still in the ocean. Some people think it is from their diet or simply genetic. They taste the same, just have white flesh instead of the traditional orange/reddish meat.

 

[Garfield the cat]

Ontario chicken forums...

So do you use a shot line when fishing chickens?

I was waiting for a comment like this. HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

 

[Blair]

A lot of people here in AK catch the white meat king salmon when ocean fishing for them. They are not spawning as they are still in the ocean. Some people think it is from their diet or simply genetic. They taste the same, just have white flesh instead of the traditional orange/reddish meat.

I found this AK.



White King Salmon
Greenbacks, Gustatory Preference and Genetics


By Tammy Davis

Grilled white king salmon, prepared by Roman Motyka. About one king in 20 has white meat, and many prefer the flavor of the "ivory" kings.The rich, red meat of a wild Alaska king salmon is a vivid sight. Translucent and buttery, the deep red color comes from pigments in crustaceans in the salmons’ diet. Some king salmon – about one in 20 – have white meat due to an inability to process these pigments in their food. Although these white kings have long been coveted by many Alaskans, the pale meat typically fetched a lower price from fish buyers and was considered commercially less desirable. But now white kings are making a splash in the commercial market.

In past years white king sold for about sixty cents less per pound than the more familiar red-fleshed king, and some fish buyers enjoyed this rarer king salmon for a bargain. Nowadays many believe white king’s flavor is more delectable than their more common cousin. The marketing tide has turned and now the fairer fish, marketed as “ivory king,” brings a higher price.

David Moorehead, executive chef for the Gold Room in Juneau’s Baranof Hotel, laments that the price has gone up over the last three years, “I used to be able to get white king for less than regular king,” he said. “It must have caught on, because the cost has gone through the roof.”

Sherry Tuttle of Rose Fisheries in Sitka said her East Coast customers covet the white king, and they’re willing to pay more for it.

King (also called Chinook) salmon with white or red meat are the same species, Onchorhynchus tshawytscha. From a nutritional standpoint, research has shown the white kings and the red-fleshed kings are identical in composition of lipids, moisture, protein and omega -3 fatty acids, the “good” fats that can protect one from heart disease. But white kings are preferred by many fans of king salmon.

“White king is the best, a true melt in your mouth delicacy,” said Linda Belarde of Juneau.

“It is much oilier and hence, tastier,” said Donald Gregory, an Alaska Native of the Tlingit people. “When home-canned you can really see the difference in the amount of oil produced.”

Some sport anglers believe that white kings fight differently once hooked. “When you’re sport fishing and you get a king on, sometimes you can tell if it’s a white because they tend to take off swimming straight down, a red would swim out away from the boat,” said Gregory.

Regardless of how that king fights once on the hook, red and white king salmon look the same when hauled out of the water. It isn’t until the fish is sliced open that the lucky angler learns the color of the flesh. In the past it was believed that white and red king salmon consumed notably different diets, leading to their flesh color distinction. Scientists now believe that variation in flesh color is controlled by genetics.

Grilled red king. Genetics, not diet, determines the color of the meat of a wild king salmon, and nutritionally they are identical.The meat of a typical king salmon may range from reddish-orange to pinkish-red. These kings have the genetically-determined ability to metabolize pigments in their diet, which are stored in the muscle tissue – the meat. All salmon eat small marine crustaceans (shrimp, krill and crabs) that are rich in astaxanthin, a carotenoid that is found in most sea life. Carotenoids are natural pigments, such as beta-carotene that makes carrots orange, lycopene that provides tomatoes with red color, and astaxanthin, which gives lobsters’ their red shell. White king salmon do not have the ability to metabolize these pigments from their food sources, leaving their flesh white. The ability of salmon to metabolize and store the red-orange pigment carotene in its muscle cells is determined by their genetic make-up.

Just as we pass down traits like eye color, definition of ear lobes and the ability to roll one’s tongue genetically, salmonid parents pass genetic traits to their offspring. The ability to process carotenoids is simply an inherited trait. Research has shown that when two white kings are mated they produce white king offspring, and red kings when mated, produce red kings; much like when two brown-eyed parents have a child, there is a high likelihood that their child will have brown eyes. It’s a bit more complicated when a red king and a white king mate. The ability to process carotenoids is a dominant trait and the inability is determined by a recessive trait. Dominant traits are manifested more often, and so white kings are in the minority.

According to Randy Rice of the Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute, “white kings make up only about five percent of the total king salmon population, the majority of them found in southeast Alaska and British Columbia, Canada.”

In some Southeast rivers, such as the Chilkat, Taku, Unuk, and Chickamin rivers, the genetic pool of white king is concentrated, the population making up 15 to 30 percent of the total king population. An angler has a better chance of catching a white king here than other rivers in Alaska.

Red and white king salmon look the same when hauled out of the water. It isn’t until the fish is sliced open that the lucky angler learns the color of the flesh.As the law of supply and demand suggests, when supply is limited and demand is high, the price of goods increases. Because fisherman cannot provide a steady supply of white king, salmon loving Americans will pay more for white king salmon. Moorehead, of the Gold Room, said, “It’s a novelty and the rule of thumb with novelties is that you can get a better return when there is a high demand.”

Moorehead prepares white king in much the same way he would red king, either baking or grilling the fish. He highlights its distinct flavor by marrying it with “basil pesto, tomatoes and pine nuts or by bronzing it with warming spices such as cardamom, coriander and cloves and quickly searing it for a “Moroccan flair.” He avoids heavy sauces, because he wants to show off that lovely “ivory” flesh that his customers are paying for.

Tammy Davis is a biologist with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, Division of Sport Fish.

 

[NOTTA STEELER]

<br />OT: Actually corn has nothing to do with the colour of chicken eggs, it is the amount of green stuff the chickens eat, such as dandelions, lettuce, grass, etc that effect the colour of the yolk.<br /><br />Corn does play an important role in the diet of chickens but not what you think it does. It provides the hens enough fat to produce the eggs and keep their body weight. It is also used as a treat for chickens in cold whether countries where they cannot leave the coop and forage for bugs, leaves and worms in the winter because of the snow. <br /><br />Another cool thing about chickens is that if the chicken has coloured ear lobs the chicken will lay a brown or colorful egg. If the ear lobes are white the egg shell will be white. A chicken breed called Ameraucana or Araucana are the only breeds that lay green, blue or pink eggs.<br /><br />I'm kinda obsessed about Chickens. No dis-respect meant in anyway.<br />

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No offense taken .. I was simply quoting a farmer who sells eggs to local residents in my town . I cracked an egg open and the yoke was colourless and I said I thought the egg was rotten and he said no it"s because he dosen't feed them corn , he insists that is what colours the eggs .

 

[FishingNoob]

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No offense taken .. I was simply quoting a farmer who sells eggs to local residents in my town . I cracked an egg open and the yoke was colourless and I said I thought the egg was rotten and he said no it"s because he dosen't feed them corn , he insists that is what colours the eggs .

Hmmm, that's not what I found/heard. Who knows we both might be right. Did the egg taste rotten?

 

[point defiance]

The real question is which came first. The chicken or the egg? Hmmmmmmm

 

[ADM]

Thanks a lot for all the reply. Learned a lot about a salmon and bonus about chicken and eggs.