float help

[schnip]

are the following statements correct--

1larger float for larger waters with stronger currect
2setup simply put is mainline-float on mainline and heavier splitshot--then small swivel--then flro leader with smaller split shots leading to tied on hook and bait---
3 float size is determined by bait...or determined by water speed and dept


i am asking this as i ave tried everything--including copying the dude beside me that just pulled a 20 lb chinook out of the duff......i am at my whits end please, if you have any empathy for me respond....lololol

 

[Luke]

1) Yes but also rounder in shape vs pencil shape
2) Yes but when I care (since I run orange mainline) I run say 10lb mainline (swivel) 8lb floro with float and some shot (swivel) 4, 6 or 7 lb floro and some more shot. Google shot patterns and you will learn a bit more, different baits i.e. floating vs neutral vs sinking need different shot patterns in diffferent water conditions
3) Float size is determined by a lot of factors, I try to run as small of a float as possible for the given bait and conditions. Sometimes takes a few drifts to guage that.

My best learning experiences have been in crystal clear water, it lets you see how your bait is tracking, how to set up weights, lead length etc. It also showed me if you have too big of a float in certain conditions the fish will turn, hit the bait, headshake and spit it before you ever see the float move... especially if the float is too big.

 

[NOTTA STEELER]

are the following statements correct--

1larger float for larger waters with stronger currect
2setup simply put is mainline-float on mainline and heavier splitshot--then small swivel--then flro leader with smaller split shots leading to tied on hook and bait---
3 float size is determined by bait...or determined by water speed and dept


i am asking this as i ave tried everything--including copying the dude beside me that just pulled a 20 lb chinook out of the duff......i am at my whits end please, if you have any empathy for me respond....lololol

Larger floats allow you to put more shot on to slow down your presentation in a faster flow. Set up for me is, main line , float , 4 to 6 shot , swivel and fluorocarbon leader ( no shot on leader ) , # 10 or # 12 hook and bait . Float size for me is determined by flow of water .

 

[rocheleauc]

Larger floats allow you to put more shot on to slow down your presentation in a faster flow. Set up for me is, main line , float , 4 to 6 shot , swivel and fluorocarbon leader ( no shot on leader ) , # 10 or # 12 hook and bait . Float size for me is determined by flow of water .

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Also the extra weight allows you to cast it further, which helps a lot on big water.

 

[Float_On]

Make sure your float is sitting properly, with enough weight. I often see guys with 6+gram floats and very little shot under it. A fish could easily take a bait, try it out, and spit it without the angler noticing a thing.

Your float should be at its very limit of buoyancy so that the tiniest little take can be detected. There are reasons for shapes and weight ratings.

Not all takes will completely rip a float under the water, some might just shake your float a touch. You'll get a feel for it.

You can also work on presentation, make sure the furthest thing downstream is your bait, not your shot. This can be difficult or nearly impossible depending on where you have to stand, but important more so with clarity.

Check out the raven website, they have a nice PDF you can view. I'm too lazy to get a link for ya tho.

 

[Knuguy]

I have'nt done much float fishing, but I found it necessary to use a shot line in between the main and the leader. I need to be at home with needle nose pliers to be able to put those small shots on the line. Maybe I got extra big and clumsy fingers?

 

[schnip]

so fatter float for faster water to slow it down a bit
thinner float for fast water so it doesnt slow too much

??

 

[ChaseChrome]

Use Dozer and CC's method....

12 foot leader...clear out the bottom just like a shrimp trawler baby!!!

CJR and I saw a guy this method quite effectively last weekend....

 

[Fishheads]

Use Dozer and CC's method....

12 foot leader...clear out the bottom just like a shrimp trawler baby!!!

CJR and I saw a guy this method quite effectively last weekend....

Not sure but sounds like Lining?

 

[Fishheads]

so fatter float for faster water to slow it down a bit
thinner float for fast water so it doesnt slow too much

??

Try this site out
http://www.anglersinternational.com/steelhead_home.html

help bar is on the right

 

[rocheleauc]

Use Dozer and CC's method....

12 foot leader...clear out the bottom just like a shrimp trawler baby!!!

CJR and I saw a guy this method quite effectively last weekend....

You mean the guys with 20 feet of lead getting the fish to bite with their tails? <_<

 

[christotheashto]

not necessarily FAT float for fast water, you want HEAVY float for fast water.

the problem with using fat floats in fast water is there is more of the float for the water to push against, causing it to actually move FASTER. you will get the idea. i don't really use fat floats at all.
all of my floats, whether 3g, 4g, 6g, etc. are all of a long and thin design. the heavy are just longer and a bigger diameter.
but don't just think FAT = heavy, SKINNY=light because that is often not the case.

example being the phantom clear floats which you can buy in a variety of weights, but regardless of that, they are all a similar shape and design. the heavier ones are BIGGER, yes, but not necessarily fat ball shaped floats.

 

[ChaseChrome]

You mean the guys with 20 feet of lead getting the fish to bite with their tails? <_<

You remember...that would be the one brother...