for anyone who dosn't know

[balapickerel]

my favorite part of catching a fish is the fight, i like it to last as long as possible. i found out recently that if you plan on releasing a fish you should reel it in as quik as possible otherwise the lactic acid in thier blood will build up and diminish thier chances of survival

 

[JRego7]

Never knew that one. Good to know.

 

[idesign]

didnt knew either.
can some1 confirm if it is true

 

[balapickerel]

did more research

found out that it's definately true with trout and char but don't know about other fish

 

[openfire]

This is 100% true. Please take the necessary time to properly revive your fish before release.

 

[frozenfire]

True.
Lactic acid build-up will surely decreases chances of survival for hooked fish.

 

[halleb]

I also did not know about this, good to learn new things

 

[disspatcher]

Well sort of correct.. guess it depends what species and how deep you are bringing them in from......

For example, this is one reason when Muskie fishing...using heavy braided line in order to horse them in. You can tell when a lunge is "powered out" All the blood run to the fins and they turn red/purple...when this happends recovery takes a long time and chance of survival is diminished.

Now in saying that....if you are pulling lakers from the deep; do it slowly..they come from deep water,,,you have to reel them in slowly till they "burp" ...they have a bladder which needs to adjust to the pressures...you can actully hear them burp too!

 

[YAWN]

I'll agree with the depth issue,

Somewhat agreee with the speed of getting them in but I'm after the fight not the fish so I like a longer fight is prefered for me.

Handling and revival yeah firsure they play a huge part.

My ? is what about a fish bleeding a bit?
Now I've heard they'll die but I still let them go I don't keep fish.
Will they survive or is it a guaranteed death? Please and tx.

 

[openfire]

My ? is what about a fish bleeding a bit?
Now I've heard they'll die but I still let them go I don't keep fish.
Will they survive or is it a guaranteed death? Please and tx.

Good question. It's a common perception among anglers that a bleeding fish will die. I've wondered myself if this is a guaranteed death... I tend to think that it depends on the severity of the wound and/or how badly the fish is bleeding. I don't how fish wounds heal but I would like to hear from someone with some knowledge in this area. Frozenfire?

 

[frozenfire]

I would say it really depends where it is bleeding from.
If the fish is injured in the gills and it's just pumping out blood with every respiration, then chances are it's a goner. That blood that flows through the gills attach oxygen before returning to deliver that O2 to the rest of the body. If it just leaves the body and enters the water, the fish is gradually getting less and less O2 and will eventually go into a state of shock / death.

Fish hooked in the jaw area and are bleeding usually survive in my opinion... even if a whole chunk of skin/flesh is ripped off. We've all caught fish that have been caught before with visible scarring. The bleeding tends to eventually stop after the blood coagulates. Healing is a very quick process, given good conditions. If water quality is bad, then fungal and bacterial infections do occur and can be fatal. I've seen fish with patches of fungus over their bodies in different lakes/ponds etc. Once an infection takes hold, it spreads rather quickly to other areas of the fish.

I'm unsure of this, but in my experience, fish blood tends to coagulate (go from liquid to a solid state -- blood clotting) rather quickly. Maybe there is a some kind of reaction with water that causes the blood to clot and stop bleeding. The blood must clot quickly especially in an aquatic environment.

 

[balapickerel]

I'm unsure of this, but in my experience, fish blood tends to coagulate (go from liquid to a solid state -- blood clotting) rather quickly. Maybe there is a some kind of reaction with water that causes the blood to clot and stop bleeding. The blood must clot quickly especially in an aquatic environment.

i think your probably right about this because fish would have evolved to stop bleeding or otherwise bigger fish would smell them and eat them.

 

[frozenfire]

I'm unsure of this, but in my experience, fish blood tends to coagulate (go from liquid to a solid state -- blood clotting) rather quickly. Maybe there is a some kind of reaction with water that causes the blood to clot and stop bleeding. The blood must clot quickly especially in an aquatic environment.

i think your probably right about this because fish would have evolved to stop bleeding or otherwise bigger fish would smell them and eat them.

Yes, that would probably be right too!

I just did a little research and saw that a lot of scientists have done studies on blood coagulation in fish. Seems like an interesting topic that I'll leave for a boring day haha. Hopefully I will still have access to scholarly scientific articles from the U of T library.

 

[openfire]

I would say it really depends where it is bleeding from.
If the fish is injured in the gills and it's just pumping out blood with every respiration, then chances are it's a goner. That blood that flows through the gills attach oxygen before returning to deliver that O2 to the rest of the body. If it just leaves the body and enters the water, the fish is gradually getting less and less O2 and will eventually go into a state of shock / death.

Fish hooked in the jaw area and are bleeding usually survive in my opinion... even if a whole chunk of skin/flesh is ripped off. We've all caught fish that have been caught before with visible scarring. The bleeding tends to eventually stop after the blood coagulates. Healing is a very quick process, given good conditions. If water quality is bad, then fungal and bacterial infections do occur and can be fatal. I've seen fish with patches of fungus over their bodies in different lakes/ponds etc. Once an infection takes hold, it spreads rather quickly to other areas of the fish.

I'm unsure of this, but in my experience, fish blood tends to coagulate (go from liquid to a solid state -- blood clotting) rather quickly. Maybe there is a some kind of reaction with water that causes the blood to clot and stop bleeding. The blood must clot quickly especially in an aquatic environment.

Excellent write up.

 

[MikeyMikey]

not really...

you could fight sunfish for very long and it won't die... i bet you'll give up first and unhook the fish

 

[YAWN]

? what about leaving hooks in the fish's mouth?

You know when u get to the point that if u keep the fish out anymore it not gunna make it so u cut the hooks as best u can and let her go hoping she works them out herself?

So do they or don't they? I heard the hooks rust off in a matter of days, that a myth?

So should u cut the hooks or that a bad idea?

 

[balapickerel]

if the hook is right through the flesh and you can see the end of the hook than cut it and pull the end out without trouble, as for leaving the hooks in it is true that there are some type of hooks that will desintagrate very quickly and but i doubt that all hooks do.

 

[openfire]

? what about leaving hooks in the fish's mouth?

You know when u get to the point that if u keep the fish out anymore it not gunna make it so u cut the hooks as best u can and let her go hoping she works them out herself?

So do they or don't they? I heard the hooks rust off in a matter of days, that a myth?

So should u cut the hooks or that a bad idea?

I will look into this further, but I believe that certain hooks will disintegrate over time if left in the fish. It depends on the chemical composition of the hook.

 

[disspatcher]

I'll agree with the depth issue,

Somewhat agreee with the speed of getting them in but I'm after the fight not the fish so I like a longer fight is prefered for me.

Handling and revival yeah firsure they play a huge part.

My ? is what about a fish bleeding a bit?
Now I've heard they'll die but I still let them go I don't keep fish.
Will they survive or is it a guaranteed death? Please and tx.

FYI
It is actually ILLEGAL to release a dying fish! Check your regs!! if a fish id dying you must not release it and keep it for comsumption.....and if you are a catch and release anglar it should be for preservation and protection of the species.
If every anglar who practiced catch and release fought the fish out for the fight..how many fish do you think your kids will be catching in years to come??
Let them swim.
Just my 2cents
Disspatcher

 

[YAWN]

"ILLEGAL to release a dying fish"

I guess it comes back to what exactly is a dying fish?

If we are being right picky u could say once it's out of the water the fish is therefore dying.

disspatcher nothing personal I know it aint your rule but that there is one of the dumbest the ministry has come up with. Wouldn't it make sense to add it back to the ecosystem and let the little critters who make up the food chain get something free?

And I'll totally disagree with "If every angler who practiced catch and release fought the fish out for the fight"

U could turn that around and say that if every angler kept every little tiny thing they caught "white bucket anglers we had a rant about them" we would be far worse off so I totally 100% disagree on that.

So bottom line is each person has to be responsible, I think most fishermen do take care of the environment.